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[Erngath]

You know the names of the serving officers of OG ? Wow

No, only the lead officers names
But the whole of operation Grange have been maligned.IMO
When it is suggested that they are covering up for the McCanns  or turning a blind eye to evidence  or not bringing evidence to the attention of their superiors, then in my opinion they are being maligned.

[slartibartfast]

No, only the lead officers but the whole of operation Grange have been maligned.
When it is suggested that they are covering up for the McCanns  or turning a blind eye to evidence  or not bringing evidence to the attention of their superiors, then in my opinion they are being maligned.

The joys of democracy.

[faithlilly]

No, only the lead officers names
But the whole of operation Grange have been maligned.IMO
When it is suggested that they are covering up for the McCanns  or turning a blind eye to evidence  or not bringing evidence to the attention of their superiors, then in my opinion they are being maligned.

Like the whole of the PJ were maligned ?

[G-Unit]

Public figures expect criticism as part of the job.

Interesting. According to the Portuguese SC judges the McCanns were public figures.

[Mr Gray]

Interesting. According to the Portuguese SC judges the McCanns were public figures.

criticism but not defamation...

[G-Unit]

criticism but not defamation...

No Portuguese judge has ever said they were defamed in my opinion. The McCanns were awarded damages initially because the judge believed that Amaral's freedom of speech was restricted due to his previous job. Had he not been an ex policeman she wouldn't have awarded those damages.

[Mr Gray]

No Portuguese judge has ever said they were defamed in my opinion. The McCanns were awarded damages initially because the judge believed that Amaral's freedom of speech was restricted due to his previous job. Had he not been an ex policeman she wouldn't have awarded those damages.

The SC judgement discussed at length the right to reputation

[slartibartfast]

The SC judgement discussed at length the right to reputation

...and the right to freedom of expression, so?

[Mr Gray]

...and the right to freedom of expression, so?

And they ruled in favour of freedom of expression against the right to reputation... Defamation

[slartibartfast]

And they ruled in favour of freedom of expression against the right to reputation... Defamation

To take this to a logical if silly conclusion, would you say that Fred West was defamed? The newspapers freedom of expression trumped his right to reputation.

[Mr Gray]

To take this to a logical if silly conclusion, would you say that Fred West was defamed? The newspapers freedom of expression trumped his right to reputation.

Was there any evidence against Fred west

[Erngath]

Like the whole of the PJ were maligned ?

No, only a couple who have been criticized.
Not the entire PJ.
To accuse serving officers of corruption is a very serious accusation.

Amaral has a conviction for perjury.
That is a fact.

[slartibartfast]

No, only a couple who have been criticized.
Not the entire PJ.
To accuse serving officers of corruption is a very serious accusation.

Amaral has a conviction for perjury.
That is a fact.

To maliciously print information about a spent conviction with a view to damaging reputation can be seen as libellous.

[Erngath]

To maliciously print information about a spent conviction with a view to damaging reputation can be seen as libellous.

So his conviction cannot be mentioned anywhere?

[slartibartfast]

So his conviction cannot be mentioned anywhere?

Depends why you are doing it.