"Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”

[slartibartfast]

Everyone  might react differently... The McCanns went jogging... Some say that's ridiculous... I say it's, a, stress coping strategy... Would you say that's an invention on my part

Exercise is a stress coping strategy: I think we could accept as a fact.

The McCanns went jogging as a stress coping strategy: is an opinion based on the likelihood of them being stressed.

Because they had so nearly been able to thwart the abductor, the McCanns went jogging as a stress coping strategy: is an invention as we don’t know what was stressing them.

If people want to give opinions fine, just make sure they are clear it is an opinion.

[slartibartfast]

What investigations have WE done to look for evidence

I haven’t done any for this particular point have you?

[Mr Gray]

Exercise is a stress coping strategy: I think we could accept as a fact.

The McCanns went jogging as a stress coping strategy: is an opinion based on the likelihood of them being stressed.

Because they had so nearly been able to thwart the abductor, the McCanns went jogging as a stress coping strategy: is an invention as we don’t know what was stressing them.

If people want to give opinions fine, just make sure they are clear it is an opinion.

It's not an invention IMO... It's, a reasonable explanation

[Mr Gray]

I haven’t done any for this particular point have you?

Then it's no surprise  you have no evidence

[slartibartfast]

Then it's no surprise  you have no evidence

You don’t either.

[Mr Gray]

Might be worth leaving it there and accepting that... Invention... Is an opinion.. Not a fact... the very thing gunit wishes to avoid

[slartibartfast]

Might be worth leaving it there and accepting that... Invention... Is an opinion.. Not a fact... the very thing gunit wishes to avoid

Whatever you say.

[misty]

Isn't much of behavioural analysis invention?

[jassi]

Isn't much of behavioural analysis invention?

Is it or is that just your opinion ?  Perhaps a cite might help

[misty]

Is it or is that just your opinion ?  Perhaps a cite might help

I'm musing. Just thinking about how a certain expert in the field equates the mention of an opening door with previous child sexual abuse which is surely invention rather than opinion or fact. Totally off topic of why people choose to support the McCanns against such pseudo-science........

[G-Unit]

Everyone  might react differently... The McCanns went jogging... Some say that's ridiculous... I say it's, a, stress coping strategy... Would you say that's an invention on my part ...because  it isn't

Unless they said it it's your opinion. Kate said it was a kind of self-punishment;

I also felt a compulsion to run up to the top of the Rocha Negra. Somehow, inflicting physical pain on myself seemed to be the only possible way of escaping my internal pain......

My child had suffered and therefore so must I. [madeleine]

[Vertigo Swirl]

I made a factual mistake recently on the CSI thread and apologised. I've never been afraid of acknowledging my mistakes because 'face' isn't something I care about. It's not so easy to resolve when opinions or interpretations are being discussed, because they're not facts. That;s why I prefer to avoid them if I can.

You invite opinion and speculation by wondering about certain aspects of the case don’t you?

[Robittybob1]

You invite opinion and speculation by wondering about certain aspects of the case don’t you?

Not too soon hopefully.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ok...

Fact - there are discrepancies in the statements.

How would you counter that with facts?

It’s a fact that it is quite common for there to be discrepancies in statements from witnesses to the same set of events, especially if there are many witnessses.  It is a fact that discrepancies in witness statements do not necessarily mean that one or more witnesses is lying.

[G-Unit]

You invite opinion and speculation by wondering about certain aspects of the case don’t you?

In your opinion. I just try to point out facts.