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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #525 on: August 24, 2018, 10:30:53 PM »
It’s a fact that it is quite common for there to be discrepancies in statements from witnesses to the same set of events, especially if there are many witnessses.  It is a fact that discrepancies in witness statements do not necessarily mean that one or more witnesses is lying.

Neither does it mean they aren't lying. Investigators should notice them and be open to both possibilities in my opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #526 on: August 24, 2018, 10:31:55 PM »
Unless they said it it's your opinion. Kate said it was a kind of self-punishment;

I also felt a compulsion to run up to the top of the Rocha Negra. Somehow, inflicting physical pain on myself seemed to be the only possible way of escaping my internal pain......

My child had suffered and therefore so must I. [madeleine]

My opinion... Based on the facts.. Not my invention

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #527 on: August 24, 2018, 10:40:41 PM »
My opinion... Based on the facts.. Not my invention

Did they say it? If not you invented it. There are always two sides to every coin too;

 a study published in the Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport reported that triathletes who had recently dealt with a "minor life event" or "hassle" (family, work, health, or financial issue) were more prone to injuries than those under less stress. Another study from the British Journal of Sports Medicine reported that elite athletes were more likely to get hurt if they competed while angry, confused, fatigued, tense, or depressed.
https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20801551/relieve-stress-safely-when-running/
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #528 on: August 24, 2018, 10:43:47 PM »
Did they say it? If not you invented it. There are always two sides to every coin too;

 a study published in the Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport reported that triathletes who had recently dealt with a "minor life event" or "hassle" (family, work, health, or financial issue) were more prone to injuries than those under less stress. Another study from the British Journal of Sports Medicine reported that elite athletes were more likely to get hurt if they competed while angry, confused, fatigued, tense, or depressed.
https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20801551/relieve-stress-safely-when-running/

I didn't invent it... Exercise produces endorphins... Did you know that.... The helpful effects of exercise on those suffering  stress is, well documented... No invention

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/exercise-and-stress/art-20044469



I think you need to define what you mean by invention
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #529 on: August 24, 2018, 11:29:33 PM »
In your opinion. I just try to point out facts.
If you write in a post with “I wonder what the twins were looking at on the bus or why Gerry was so grumpy” or “I wonder why Kate didn’t get the twins checked out at hospital “, then is that not a post inviting your readers to speculate?  Should we just ignore and do you object if someone offers an opinion that is critical of the McCanns, as well as those who are supportive of the McCanns?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #530 on: August 25, 2018, 06:13:16 AM »
This thread has already been tidied once, don’t make it happen again.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #531 on: August 25, 2018, 09:20:04 AM »
Neither does it mean they aren't lying. Investigators should notice them and be open to both possibilities in my opinion.

I totally agree... And I would expect the investigators to have done that...

Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #532 on: August 25, 2018, 09:46:54 AM »
I totally agree... And I would expect the investigators to have done that...

...and will continue to do so until such time as perpetrator is identified.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #533 on: August 25, 2018, 09:49:20 AM »
...and will continue to do so until such time as perpetrator is identified.

In that I don't agree... After 11 years, they should have decided... On the evidence if people are telling the truth... And they msy well have found other reasons for the discrepancies

Offline Robittybob1

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #534 on: August 25, 2018, 09:53:10 AM »
In that I don't agree... After 11 years, they should have decided... On the evidence if people are telling the truth... And they msy well have found other reasons for the discrepancies
May or may not.  It is not an easy one.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #535 on: August 25, 2018, 09:54:41 AM »
May or may not.  It is not an easy one.

The McCann's clearly are not being investigated which supports the idea they have... Imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #536 on: August 25, 2018, 09:58:26 AM »
There is lots of evidence the McCann's are not suspects or being investigated... And none that they are

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #537 on: August 25, 2018, 10:02:51 AM »
In that I don't agree... After 11 years, they should have decided... On the evidence if people are telling the truth... And they msy well have found other reasons for the discrepancies

According to Rowley in 2017 they didn't repeat what the PJ had 'dealt with' in 2007-8. He seems to have been unaware that the PJ were unable to verify the group's timeline.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #538 on: August 25, 2018, 10:05:16 AM »
In that I don't agree... After 11 years, they should have decided... On the evidence if people are telling the truth... And they msy well have found other reasons for the discrepancies

A) you don’t know if SY have a firm suspect.
B) if they had, you don’t know who it is.
C) the Police statements were a long time ago.
D) the Police wouldn’t announce that someone was a suspect and wouldn’t no comment a question about an person being a suspect.

So your reply is basically your belief.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline kizzy

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #539 on: August 25, 2018, 10:05:40 AM »
In that I don't agree... After 11 years, they should have decided... On the evidence if people are telling the truth... And they msy well have found other reasons for the discrepancies

Its not only the statments that have discrepencys. imo

kmcn in her book paints gmcn as one wonderful husband - i thought when reading it a bit ott.

Yet in her diaries she says this.



 Kate McCann's diary reveals she struggled to cope with three 'hyperactive' children, it was claimed yesterday.

The notebook, photocopied by Portuguese police, is said to show she found her role as a mother hard.

Portuguese newspapers, which have published what they claim are extracts, say it is 'fundamental' to the belief that she was involved in the death of her daughter Madeleine.

The 39-year-old GP is reported to have written about how difficult it was to control Madeleine and her two-year- old brother and sister, and how her husband Gerry often left her to get on with family duties on her own.

Mrs McCann reportedly described Madeleine and the twins as hyperactive and 'hysterical', and discloses that looking after them sapped her strength and emotions.



http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/5sep7/14_09_2007.htm

Also imo it was strange how they detached from the group from the sunday not doing much of the children activities ...

yet still did the grown up stuff....that didn't involve the children.