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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #870 on: May 27, 2016, 11:16:34 AM »
What are the mccanns innocent of ?

The left their children and should have bee brought to court in Portugal for abandonment, just as any other Portuguese citizen would have happened to them in the same situation.

its explained in the archiving report..read it...not the sun

stephen25000

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« Reply #871 on: May 27, 2016, 11:24:43 AM »
its explained in the archiving report..read it...not the sun

No it isn't.

The mccanns deliberately and repeatedly, as did the others, leave their children for hours on end, for 5 nights, with largely unverified checks, and pray to a variety of dangers.


The mccanns escaped criminal charges, of that there is no doubt at all.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #872 on: May 27, 2016, 11:25:51 AM »
No it isn't.

The mccanns deliberately and repeatedly, as did the others, leave their children for hours on end, for 5 nights, with largely unverified checks, and pray to a variety of dangers.


The mccanns escaped criminal charges, of that there is no doubt at all.

its explained in the archiving report...very simply...very clearly

stephen25000

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« Reply #873 on: May 27, 2016, 12:06:56 PM »
Incorrect.

It is abundantly clear, as would have  Portuguese residents who did the same, they should have been charged with abandonment.

It is appalling they were not.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #874 on: May 27, 2016, 12:09:19 PM »
Incorrect.

It is abundantly clear, as would have  Portuguese residents who did the same, they should have been charged with abandonment.

It is appalling they were not.

according to the sun

stephen25000

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« Reply #875 on: May 27, 2016, 12:16:06 PM »
Dear oh dear.

It was in nearly every newspaper.

Try reading posts before you type.


Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #876 on: May 27, 2016, 12:16:28 PM »
Incorrect.

It is abundantly clear, as would have  Portuguese residents who did the same, they should have been charged with abandonment.

It is appalling they were not.

From a legal perspective, it would have been a waste of time and would have resulted in an acquittal.  The reason being that the children were not abandoned, as there was a process of checks in place.  And there was no intent to abandon or recklessly expose the children to danger.  So there was no crime. 

You may not like it, but it is the legal position. 

stephen25000

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« Reply #877 on: May 27, 2016, 12:18:36 PM »
From a legal perspective, it would have been a waste of time and would have resulted in an acquittal.  The reason being that the children were not abandoned, as there was a process of checks in place.  And there was no intent to abandon or recklessly expose the children to danger.  So there was no crime. 

You may not like it, but it is the legal position.

Tell me how many of thew checks were verified.

and the children were left to their own devices

It was disgraceful behaviour , not just the mccanns either.

« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 12:25:38 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #878 on: May 27, 2016, 12:22:51 PM »
Tell me how many of thew checks were verified.

and the children were left to their own devices.

It was disgraceful behaviour , not just the mccanns either.

You may not like it, but it is the legal position.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 12:25:58 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #879 on: May 27, 2016, 12:29:13 PM »
Tell me how many of thew checks were verified.

and the children were left to their own devices.

It was disgraceful behaviour , not just the mccanns either.

In Your Opinion ... which has no standing in law. Unlike the opinion of the Portuguese Attorney General.  Let's face it Stephen you are on a hiding to nothing following this tack ... as well as sailing too close to the wind regarding defamation for my liking.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 12:31:38 PM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #880 on: May 27, 2016, 12:31:34 PM »
In Your Opinion ... which has no standing in law. Unlike the opinion of the Portuguese Attorney General.  Let's face it Stephen you are on a hiding to nothing following this tack ... as well as sailing too close to the wind regarding defamation for my liking.

Sailing close to the wind ?

The case happened in Portugal, and the report from Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira stands.

Get over it.

Still waiting for you to admit the mccanns did anything wrong.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 12:32:02 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #881 on: May 27, 2016, 12:32:06 PM »
Tell me how many of thew checks were verified.

and the children were left to their own devices

It was disgraceful behaviour , not just the mccanns either.

It may have been foolish, and had tragic consequences.

However, from a legal point of view there was no crime of abandonment committed by the McCanns.

In order to secure a conviction, the onus would be on the PP to prove intent, and to prove that no checks were actually made.  This would not be possible to do. 

As I said before, you may not like it, but it is the cold legal position.

stephen25000

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #882 on: May 27, 2016, 12:33:19 PM »
You need to refer to the  Former minister of internal affairs in Portugval, Rui Pereira .

ferryman

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« Reply #883 on: May 27, 2016, 12:36:44 PM »
Grime cited over 200 case searches, dont twist his words, Amaral merely quoted him, nothng wrong done,no lies at all by either of them, unless amaral misunderstood,which is not a crime, just numbers

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ferryman

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #884 on: May 27, 2016, 12:44:34 PM »
From a legal perspective, it would have been a waste of time and would have resulted in an acquittal.  The reason being that the children were not abandoned, as there was a process of checks in place.  And there was no intent to abandon or recklessly expose the children to danger.  So there was no crime. 

You may not like it, but it is the legal position.

With the exception of 'statutory offences' (forget them!) it seems to be an identical requirement of both penal codes (our own, adversarial and the Portuguese inquisitorial) that the commission of any crime requires both of two elements; guilty conduct and guilty intent.

The absence of either element means no crime (in either penal code).