Yet another article by Kate Mccann's good friend.
Is this a set up, designed to gain sympathy, since lie detector tests are voluntary and carry no weight in court ? &%+((£
you have to worry about gerry and kates blood pressure they are frious all the time it wouldnt be good for themAll posters on this forum who support the petition should be immediately put onto the "Moderated" status as a stand against bullying.
What does it say for the intelligence of these people when most sensible people understand just what a poor test of the truth lie detectors areMust admit irrespective of its inaccuracy it would be an interesting day.
The McCanns must be the subject of more vexatious online petitions than any other private individuals ever. Have people really got such sad inadequate lives that they feel it is their life's work to dream up new ways to bully the parents of a missing child?
It does make you wonder why? Why are a couple who would normally elicit great sympathy within the public so unpopular?Maybe it's in part because of the concerted and very dedicated online pressure group that has been running for 10 years and which has been responsible for a malicious propaganda campaign against them?
Maybe it's in part because of the concerted and very dedicated online pressure group that has been running for 10 years and which has been responsible for a malicious propaganda campaign against them?
But running concurrently has been a positive propaganda campaign, arguably a much better organised and financed one. So I ask again, why are the McCanns singled out for such vilification?
also why do the mcanns need minders/security guards on their behalf on the internet? the mcanns claim they are not on social media but they know because they get their freinds to keep them informed
You have to take a lot of the McCann's claims with a pinch of salt.Meaning what?
It does make you wonder why? Why are a couple who would normally elicit great sympathy within the public so unpopular?
What makes you think they are unpopular Faithlilly? A petition by a bunch of spiteful people?
with multiple email addresses
But running concurrently has been a positive propaganda campaign, arguably a much better organised and financed one. So I ask again, why are the McCanns singled out for such vilification?
But running concurrently has been a positive propaganda campaign, arguably a much better organised and financed one. So I ask again, why are the McCanns singled out for such vilification?Well what sort of a similarly idiotic petition would you expect those who support the McCanns to start?
Maddie McCann parents in fresh blow as second online petition launched
A SECOND online petition accusing Madeleine McCann’s parents of neglect had yesterday attracted nearly 27,000 signatures.
By Jerry Lawton / Published 30th March 2017
Another online poll calling for doctors Kate and Gerry to be prosecuted for child neglect has already been signed by 130,243 people.
The couple’s pals dismissed the new attack as “disgraceful”.
It was launched by The UK Database, a website run by self-proclaimed crime campaigner Chris Wittwer which catalogues the movements of child abusers after they have been freed from jail.
The site calls for an investigation into the couple’s actions the night their daughter vanished from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in 2007.
The UK Database petition alleged the McCanns had “gained financially” from their daughter’s disappearance.
@)(++(*Website chief Wittwer, 41, is a convicted football hooligan who was jailed for 10 months in 2011 for throwing kicks and punches at rival Huddersfield Town supporters. &%+((£
The pal of the family said: “Any person can set up a petition.”
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/601153/Maddie-McCann-Gerry-Kate-second-petition-missing-child
Says it all. @)(++(*
A waste of time because they would never take one just like Smithman will never come forward. Some things are undeniable.
We already know the petition is a waste of time. 8)-)))
Adrian Prout failed it and that's how they found Kate's body so good came from it for her family. If Prout hadn't taken a polygraph then Kate's body would still be missing and I have no doubt that he would still be claiming his innocence. Liars would be scared of it and that's the point.
The expert who tested him three months ago, British and European Polygraph Association chairman Don Cargill, recalled yesterday: “I said, ‘You’re a murderer.’ He just said ‘Ummmh.’ So I said, ‘Are you saying my test is wrong?’
“He actually replied, ‘No, your test is not wrong.’”
Don, 59, also said: “He smiled in what was one of the most surreal and chilling experiences of my life.
“There was no emotion at all, he was really calm and cool, chillingly so."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/killer-adrian-prout-failed-lie-92523
It's in very poor taste actually, obviously that site is poorly regulated.
I think the site may be aware of that, John.
The contentious petition, on Care2Petitions, has a disclaimer added to it saying: ‘NOTE: CARE2 DOES NOT ENDORSE THE CONTENT OF THIS PETITION’.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/30/offensive-petition-calls-on-madeleine-mccanns-parents-to-take-lie-detector-test-6542331/#ixzz4colMULL8
As does the organiser of the petition in the first place.
Adrian Prout failed it because he was extremely nervous and not because he was guilty. It just so happened that he was both guilty and extremely nervous but he could also have been innocent and extremely anxious, the machine cannot distinguish between these emotions.
The Polygraph is a gimmick which belongs on daytime TV, it has no place within the criminal justice system. Someone should tell the eejit who set up the Petition.
The McCanns are damned if they do and damned if they don't in this situation and whoever set it up knows it.
A very good point John. I wonder if those publicising it in the media realise that?The 'news' in March 2017 seems to the media using various non-entities to concoct material hostile to the McCanns but safe from libel.
The 'news' in March 2017 seems to the media using various non-entities to concoct material hostile to the McCanns but safe from libel.What tack is that and why are they taking it, in your opinion?
IMO, the media know exactly what tack they are taking.
What tack is that and why are they taking it, in your opinion?Column inches (and on-line advertising). There is a cash cow present and it can be milked ad infinitum. IMO, of course.
Column inches (and on-line advertising). There is a cash cow present and it can be milked ad infinitum. IMO, of course.I'd like one of those cows.
They start with easy questions first because they know people will be nervous. Saying that I don't believe it should be used as proof of guilt.
The other thing which many people don't realise is that the polygraph does not provide a definitive guilty or innocent. It provides a graphical readout of the physiological reactions in the subjects body. This graph has to be interpreted by the polygraph operator and there are plenty out there who are nothing more than polygraph cowboys out to milk the unsuspecting mugs who can pay £700 a time for their 'expertise'.
As an aside, Luke Mitchell, another convicted killer whom we feature on this forum, took a polygraph test as did his mother and both passed with flying colours. The polygraph tester was Terry Mulllins, secretary of the British Polygraph Association.
If polygraphs are genuine then Mitchell is innocent and has been incarcerated for over 13 years for a crime he did not commit. A very big IF!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21016227
Very little doubt that his conviction is unsafe.
I caught this story at the time and have been shaking my head ever since. Reading through the comments on here already I have little to add as anything I was going to say has already been said.
It's done just to keep needling Mr and Mrs McCann no doubt and I would seriously question that amount of signatures
Of course you would.SIL has the right to question.
I caught this story at the time and have been shaking my head ever since. Reading through the comments on here already I have little to add as anything I was going to say has already been said.
It's done just to keep needling Mr and Mrs McCann no doubt and I would seriously question that amount of signatures
Indeed. The last time I looked it was the job of the British police to investigate crime and wrongdoing, not the lynch mob.
Trial by Kyle?(https://itvessen-a.akamaihd.net/image/api/v1/resize/127/225/true/fill/https%3A%2F%2Fsaffrondigital.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fupload%2Fitem%2F74ba9b18-f348-45d2-90a5-d575ea61d300%2Fartwork%2Fimage%2Fexpanded%2F79fd1a82-eb1d-4886-82a5-1215a48185f8_1-5163-2240-001_ITV_C_image_ENG_TX180416.png)
Campaigner to present petition asking Madeleine McCann's parents to take lie detector test to Jeremy Kyle
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15280736.Campaigner_to_present_petition_asking_Madeleine_McCann_s_parents_to_take_lie_detector_test_to_Jeremy_Kyle/
Trial by Kyle?
Merde.
Trial by Kyle?I'm sure Kate will fly through.
Merde.
I'm sure Kate will fly through.
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Campaigner to present petition asking Madeleine McCann's parents to take lie detector test to Jeremy Kyle
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15280736.Campaigner_to_present_petition_asking_Madeleine_McCann_s_parents_to_take_lie_detector_test_to_Jeremy_Kyle/
As if that is going to happen. @)(++(* @)(++(*Well this will not happen: ""I feel as though this would finally put an end to the debate of whether the McCanns had any involvement with their daughter's disappearance." How could it end the debate. It will more likely add fuel to the fire.
I think the odds are very long on her taking one.
I think the odds of those particular sceptics agreeing that a 'Pass' result proved the McCanns are innocent are even longer.
There would be screams of 'Fix!' and multitudes of claims that the test was unreliable and that some guilty people could beat it.
The one thing they wouldn't do is say ''Oops sorry Kate and Gerry - we were wrong''.
Just another spiteful McCann bashing exercise IMO.
AIMHO
This is all hot air.
There isn't going to be a lie-detector test taken by the McCann's.