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Offline slartibartfast

Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« on: August 22, 2018, 12:00:16 PM »
We have seen from the Brenda Leyland case that many supporters and sceptics spend a lot of their time having a go at each rather than discussing the case. This even seems to happen on supporter or sceptic forums. Do we think that if one side stopped the other would fade away?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 12:08:07 PM »
We have seen from the Brenda Leyland case that many supporters and sceptics spend a lot of their time having a go at each rather than discussing the case. This even seems to happen on supporter or sceptic forums. Do we think that if one side stopped the other would fade away?

For clarity.

Which case do you intend to discuss.

Brenda Leyland's or Madeleine McCann's?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 12:09:37 PM »
We have seen from the Brenda Leyland case that many supporters and sceptics spend a lot of their time having a go at each rather than discussing the case. This even seems to happen on supporter or sceptic forums. Do we think that if one side stopped the other would fade away?
If one side stopped then the bickering would subside until members from the same side started bickering with each other.  That's what usually happens isn't it?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 12:11:57 PM »
We have seen from the Brenda Leyland case that many supporters and sceptics spend a lot of their time having a go at each rather than discussing the case. This even seems to happen on supporter or sceptic forums. Do we think that if one side stopped the other would fade away?

Most sites I have come across seem to be very one-sided, the opposition being pretty much excluded and yet they continue to function despite this imbalance, so probably only death and dementia will bring an end to all the bickering and attempted point-scoring.
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Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 12:24:31 PM »
Its all very subjective. What might give someone  a case of the vapours might go almost unnoticed by others.

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-to-have-a-case-of-the-vapors
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2018, 12:26:50 PM »
Its all very subjective. What might give someone  a case of the vapours might go almost unnoticed by others.

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-to-have-a-case-of-the-vapors
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Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2018, 12:31:24 PM »
Again, it depends on how you define abuse. What one person might consider abuse may not be shared by others.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2018, 12:36:25 PM »
Again, it depends on how you define abuse. What one person might consider abuse may not be shared by others.
I think you're being a little disingenuous there. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2018, 01:34:23 PM »
Whatever floats your boat VS call me what you like - no prob at all after all your only talking to the hand.

I'm never offended what anyone posts to me - just class it as their best form of defence is to attack.
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Offline barrier

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2018, 04:24:28 PM »
I wonder who would be more pleased if all debate about the case was stopped,supporters or sceptics.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2018, 04:30:47 PM »
I wonder who would be more pleased if all debate about the case was stopped,supporters or sceptics.

I can answer that but then what would some supporters  have to do with their days, take up knitting perhaps? ^*&&
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Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2018, 04:31:48 PM »
I wonder who would be more pleased if all debate about the case was stopped,supporters or sceptics.

A no brainer I think.
 What motive would sceptics have for closing discussion down?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2018, 04:33:42 PM »
I can answer that but then what would some supporters  have to do with their days, take up knitting perhaps? ^*&&

Not once the need for the  tumbrel has been taken away 

Or they could always start a new forum - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_%27n_Bitch
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 04:46:35 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2018, 04:52:19 PM »
Aha!  The earlier abuse has been wiped to be replaced with the subtler variety - bravo!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why does the Maddie case continue to attract so much passion?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 04:57:09 PM »
A no brainer I think.
 What motive would sceptics have for closing discussion down?
IMO discussion is regularly closed down on this forum by sceptics - those who refuse to answer questions or to be drawn into discussing their opinions, their theories or to say what they really think, who deflect with ad homs, strawmen and other tactics.  I'm all for completely open and honest exchange of views, but that doesn't seem popular with some sceptics.   
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".