Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?

[Vertigo Swirl]

One of your better posts Vertigo Swirl. 

That’s just rude but it’s certainly one of your more revealing posts, as is the “like” it garnered from the lady who claims to abhor abuse.

[G-Unit]

That’s just rude but it’s certainly one of your more revealing posts, as is the “like” it garnered from the lady who claims to abhor abuse.

I can tell the difference between abuse and teasing, although I realise that some sensitive souls take offense when teased. It's a matter of opinion, of course.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can tell the difference between abuse and teasing, although I realise that some sensitive souls take offense when teased. It's a matter of opinion, of course.

Yes it is.  You think being labelled a sceptic is abuse, say no more.

[G-Unit]

Yes it is.  You think being labelled a sceptic is abuse, say no more.

The label is used as a term of abuse by some in my opinion.

I am a sceptic if it means;

a person who habitually doubts the authenticity of accepted beliefs
a person who mistrusts people, ideas, etc, in general
a person who doubts the truth of religion, esp Christianity

I am not a sceptic when people refer to them like this;

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In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

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[slartibartfast]

The label is used as a term of abuse by some in my opinion.

I am a sceptic if it means;

a person who habitually doubts the authenticity of accepted beliefs
a person who mistrusts people, ideas, etc, in general
a person who doubts the truth of religion, esp Christianity

I am not a sceptic when people refer to them like this;

snip/
In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187

Agreed, put someone in a group then equate their behaviour with others they have put in the same group.

[Mr Gray]

The label is used as a term of abuse by some in my opinion.

I am a sceptic if it means;

a person who habitually doubts the authenticity of accepted beliefs
a person who mistrusts people, ideas, etc, in general
a person who doubts the truth of religion, esp Christianity

I am not a sceptic when people refer to them like this;

snip/
In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187

it might be  a term of abuse by some....but not by others

[Vertigo Swirl]

The label is used as a term of abuse by some in my opinion.

I am a sceptic if it means;

a person who habitually doubts the authenticity of accepted beliefs
a person who mistrusts people, ideas, etc, in general
a person who doubts the truth of religion, esp Christianity

I am not a sceptic when people refer to them like this;

snip/
In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187

So change sceptic to supporter and supporter becomes a term of abuse does it?
"In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most supporter shibboleths".

[Brietta]

The label is used as a term of abuse by some in my opinion.

I am a sceptic if it means;

a person who habitually doubts the authenticity of accepted beliefs
a person who mistrusts people, ideas, etc, in general
a person who doubts the truth of religion, esp Christianity

I am not a sceptic when people refer to them like this;

snip/
In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187

The full quote being ...
Never heard of shock?  Never heard of uncontrollable bodily reaction?

Quote
Researchers say they have identified how emotional trauma - from winning the lottery to losing a close relative - can trigger a potentially lethal catastrophe in the body they call the 'broken heart syndrome'.

    ////////

They say the news or event (of a traumatic event) causes the body to produce large amounts of stress hormones including adrenaline, which narrows the main arteries which supply blood to the heart.
This paralyses the heart's main pumping chamber, causing a sudden change in rhythm similar to a heart attack.

    ////////


Dr Christoph Nienaber, director of cardiology at the university, said: 'These patients suffer under a heavy emotional load, either positive or negative. Their hearts literally break. It usually happens within minutes to an hour of hearing the news.
'The typical scenario is bad  news but there are reports of  both and we don't know what causes it most.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2218009/Why-shock-kill-good-news--Release-adrenaline-sudden-discovery-lead-heart-problems.html#ixzz4pRUtKQ9o

I would say that sort of reaction over which there is no control would be sufficient for one to 'go weak at the knees' and collapse into the 'praying arab' position used to deride Gerry McCann during what most would describe as the single most stressful event of his life.
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Going further ... why would I or any other pontificate on extreme the grief of parents who have just discovered their eldest child is missing from her bed?

Is there anything to compare it with?  I've seen no other case where the horror of such an event has either been publicised and exploited to ridicule bereaved parents as in the Amaral video.

In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187


Which your selective quote taken in context would indicate why it is exactly you apparently object to carrying such a label.  I too would hang my head in shame.

On such hatred and lack of understanding of available facts in my opinion as well as quotes taken out of context is the bulwark of the 'doubters' and 'questioners' case.

Something which I have no doubt will be further epitomised when Madeleine's father airs the horrible effects of being the father of a missing child was and is.

[faithlilly]

The full quote being ...
Never heard of shock?  Never heard of uncontrollable bodily reaction?

Quote
Researchers say they have identified how emotional trauma - from winning the lottery to losing a close relative - can trigger a potentially lethal catastrophe in the body they call the 'broken heart syndrome'.

    ////////

They say the news or event (of a traumatic event) causes the body to produce large amounts of stress hormones including adrenaline, which narrows the main arteries which supply blood to the heart.
This paralyses the heart's main pumping chamber, causing a sudden change in rhythm similar to a heart attack.

    ////////


Dr Christoph Nienaber, director of cardiology at the university, said: 'These patients suffer under a heavy emotional load, either positive or negative. Their hearts literally break. It usually happens within minutes to an hour of hearing the news.
'The typical scenario is bad  news but there are reports of  both and we don't know what causes it most.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2218009/Why-shock-kill-good-news--Release-adrenaline-sudden-discovery-lead-heart-problems.html#ixzz4pRUtKQ9o

I would say that sort of reaction over which there is no control would be sufficient for one to 'go weak at the knees' and collapse into the 'praying arab' position used to deride Gerry McCann during what most would describe as the single most stressful event of his life.
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Going further ... why would I or any other pontificate on extreme the grief of parents who have just discovered their eldest child is missing from her bed?

Is there anything to compare it with?  I've seen no other case where the horror of such an event has either been publicised and exploited to ridicule bereaved parents as in the Amaral video.

In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187


Which your selective quote taken in context would indicate why it is exactly you apparently object to carrying such a label.  I too would hang my head in shame.

On such hatred and lack of understanding of available facts in my opinion as well as quotes taken out of context is the bulwark of the 'doubters' and 'questioners' case.

Something which I have no doubt will be further epitomised when Madeleine's father airs the horrible effects of being the father of a missing child was and is.

I’m sure the horrible effects on  Mr McCann are nothing to the horrible treatment his daughter has been victim to ( if she was abducted as you believe ).

[G-Unit]

The full quote being ...
Never heard of shock?  Never heard of uncontrollable bodily reaction?

Quote
Researchers say they have identified how emotional trauma - from winning the lottery to losing a close relative - can trigger a potentially lethal catastrophe in the body they call the 'broken heart syndrome'.

    ////////

They say the news or event (of a traumatic event) causes the body to produce large amounts of stress hormones including adrenaline, which narrows the main arteries which supply blood to the heart.
This paralyses the heart's main pumping chamber, causing a sudden change in rhythm similar to a heart attack.

    ////////


Dr Christoph Nienaber, director of cardiology at the university, said: 'These patients suffer under a heavy emotional load, either positive or negative. Their hearts literally break. It usually happens within minutes to an hour of hearing the news.
'The typical scenario is bad  news but there are reports of  both and we don't know what causes it most.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2218009/Why-shock-kill-good-news--Release-adrenaline-sudden-discovery-lead-heart-problems.html#ixzz4pRUtKQ9o

I would say that sort of reaction over which there is no control would be sufficient for one to 'go weak at the knees' and collapse into the 'praying arab' position used to deride Gerry McCann during what most would describe as the single most stressful event of his life.
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Going further ... why would I or any other pontificate on extreme the grief of parents who have just discovered their eldest child is missing from her bed?

Is there anything to compare it with?  I've seen no other case where the horror of such an event has either been publicised and exploited to ridicule bereaved parents as in the Amaral video.

In my opinion, it is utterly despicable and beneath contempt as are most sceptic shibboleths.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8391.msg419187#msg419187


Which your selective quote taken in context would indicate why it is exactly you apparently object to carrying such a label.  I too would hang my head in shame.

On such hatred and lack of understanding of available facts in my opinion as well as quotes taken out of context is the bulwark of the 'doubters' and 'questioners' case.

Something which I have no doubt will be further epitomised when Madeleine's father airs the horrible effects of being the father of a missing child was and is.

I had nothing to do with what you were discussing, so obviously I object to your attempts to tar me, as a 'sceptic', with your brush.

[Mr Gray]

I had nothing to do with what you were discussing, so obviously I object to your attempts to tar me, as a 'sceptic', with your brush.

you may object...but posters have every right to describe you as  sceptic....and myself as a supporter...i

[faithlilly]

you may object...but posters have every right to describe you as  sceptic....and myself as a supporter...i

Has a sceptic, by their actions, ever contributed to the death of anyone ?

[Brietta]

I had nothing to do with what you were discussing, so obviously I object to your attempts to tar me, as a 'sceptic', with your brush.

In your acknowledgement that you have cherry picked and lifted an out of context quote from an entirely different subject ~ Danny Collins book to be exact ~ rather reveals the paucity of your argument in a thread asking "Why do some people doubt the McCanns version of events?."

Now provide a cite showing that I am attempting to 'tar' you with 'my' brush.

[Brietta]

I’m sure the horrible effects on  Mr McCann are nothing to the horrible treatment his daughter has been victim to ( if she was abducted as you believe ).

Do you imagine for a second that the families of missing children don't open their eyes every day of their lives and don't think what their children may have suffered?

Point scoring using that gets you exactly NIL.

[G-Unit]

you may object...but posters have every right to describe you as  sceptic....and myself as a supporter...i

I will continue to register my objections too. I try to include the word 'some' if I use the word 'supporter', thereby communicating that I don't assume supporters are all the same.