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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2018, 03:25:12 PM »
So we have two separate requests for the same cite and no response from the poster in question.

totally untrue...i gave a response immediately

Offline Sunny

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2018, 03:45:06 PM »
Its arrived

Later may have but the cite(s) haven't Davel.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2018, 03:48:03 PM »
Later may have but the cite(s) haven't Davel.

I responded immediately and provided the cites later as promised......
« Last Edit: October 18, 2018, 03:50:34 PM by Davel »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2018, 06:04:19 PM »
I never said I was interested in the truth of Amaral's claims. I said I was interested in the truth of claims made by posters on this forum.
Why should claims made by anonymous internet forum members be of more conseqence to you than claims made by higher profile individuals that some people actually take seriously such as Amaral?  I find that bizarre.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2018, 06:13:53 PM »
Why should claims made by anonymous internet forum members be of more conseqence to you than claims made by higher profile individuals that some people actually take seriously such as Amaral?  I find that bizarre.

This thread is about forum members providing cites, not about Amaral. I'm perfectly happy to discuss Amaral, but not on this thread.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2018, 06:15:12 PM »
I responded immediately and provided the cites later as promised......
I confirm that.  I read them but don't ask me where in which thread.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »
The third cite Sunny wanted:

"3
Quote from: Sunny on October 13, 2018, 01:27:42 AM
Do you have a cite that Eddie did still alert to pigs as Martin Grime is quite clear that he didn't in 2007.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=post;quote=494912;topic=10257.165 "

Now I've read where Grime said they were trained using piglet cadavers and that pig cadavers and humans were virtually identical in odour.

Now I've read where Grime said the dog is trained not to alert to food.  So we can assume he won't react to normal bacon, pork sausages etc.
I think Eddie in his day would react to pig cadaver but not pig meat.

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2018, 07:07:36 PM »
The fourth cite Sunny wanted:
"4
Quote from: Sunny on October 12, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
Do you have a cite to show that ashes give off cadaver odour and also one which shows that pyjamas were left on the bedside cabinet following the grandfather's death.

Cadaver odour scent will move around a room and pool, Martin Grime has already explained that the part of a room where Eddie alerted may not be the exact location of where a cadaver may have been placed.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10257.msg494866#msg494866 "

to my knowledge:
1.  Dogs can be trained to find bodies and ashes of victims of fires.  Whether Eddie was trained to do so we are not told.

2.  I think it originally was only suggested that the ashes and pyjamas were on the bedside table.



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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2018, 07:13:50 PM »
Sunny's fifth cite request is rejected  as it isn't clear whether a cite is requested now or in the future.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10244.msg493989#msg493989

Sunny asks:  "Perhaps someone should have told "a friend" then Davel. He seems explicit that they have not be interviewed by Scotland Yard. - unless you can say otherwise (with a cite) of course."
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2018, 08:17:09 PM »
Sunny's fifth cite request is rejected  as it isn't clear whether a cite is requested now or in the future.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10244.msg493989#msg493989

Sunny asks:  "Perhaps someone should have told "a friend" then Davel. He seems explicit that they have not be interviewed by Scotland Yard. - unless you can say otherwise (with a cite) of course."

it is sunnys opinion that he seems explicit...thats why she uses the word seems...I dont agree...it is my opinion that they will have been interviwed by SY...as its my opinion it does not need a cite...next

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2018, 08:20:44 PM »
These are not all easy to find. I have found the 200 case one but I cannot find the other two.  Could you please provide a link to where I can read them.

The 200 case one is a Grime statement that says 200 case searches.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2018, 08:29:42 PM »
it is sunnys opinion that he seems explicit...thats why she uses the word seems...I dont agree...it is my opinion that they will have been interviwed by SY...as its my opinion it does not need a cite...next

Why did it take you so long to say it was your opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #102 on: October 18, 2018, 08:40:39 PM »
The 200 case one is a Grime statement that says 200 case searches.

but according to  a freedom of information request posted here eddie has only been involved in 37 cases

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #103 on: October 18, 2018, 08:42:48 PM »
Why did it take you so long to say it was your opinion.

I have never stated anything different...cite if you disagree...we dont know for sure if the mccanns have been interviewed by grange...I would say they certainly have

Offline Brietta

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #104 on: October 18, 2018, 08:43:19 PM »
The 200 case one is a Grime statement that says 200 case searches.

ENIGMA 2017: Two English dogs came to Portugal, one to detect human cadaver odor and one to detect bodily fluids, whom have helped solve over 200 homicides in the UK and US. Goncalo Amaral
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....