Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Vertigo Swirl]

The scent dog indicated to the boot of the parents car....

'Investigators in Crystal Lake, Illinois say they're focusing their search on the family's home. Police say K-9 teams have found no evidence of A.J. leaving the home, and that dogs picked up his scent in the trunk of his parents' car.'

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-freund-crystal-lake-illinois-desperate-search-for-missing-5-year-old/

His body was found 8-10 miles from his home. I think we can safely assume his body was transported by car.
I very much doubt he was carried by hand, taxi or teleport.

Thanks, so these were either cadaver dogs or he was still alive when transported or they have multitasking dogs now. 

[pathfinder73]

Why would you think he was alive in the trunk of a car when a body was found? 

[Robittybob1]

Why would you think he was alive in the trunk of a car when a body was found? 

It could be either alive or dead in the boot of a car.

[pathfinder73]

Court documents allege that AJ's parents killed him by beating him and subjecting him to long, cold showers; an autopsy determined that the child died from blunt force trauma to his head, which had been struck multiple times. AJ's body was recovered on Wednesday morning in the rural Hennen Conservation Area of Woodstock.

SICK TORTURE Parents of murdered AJ Freund, 5, ‘made him stand under freezing shower and beat him to death before dumping body and reporting him missing’

But prosecutors alleged the boy was killed three days before his parents called cops.

But her lawyer George Kililis had insisted that she "doesn't know what happened to AJ and had nothing to do with the disappearance of AJ."

He added: "Ms Cunningham is worried sick. She is devastated."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8942391/aj-freund-murder-parents-torture/


Cunningham, 30, with her lawyer George Killis last week. She was said to be distraught about her sons apparent disappearance

[Lace]

poor little  andrew he had no chance  it  proves though that dogs  are not  wrong  doesnt  it???

No it doesn't prove that dogs are not wrong at all.   

Are you now going to tell me that the McCann's had hidden Madeleine's body for weeks where no one could find her and then suddenly produced her from somewhere and put her in the hired car in the glare of journalists who followed them everywhere?

Next you'll be saying they put her in the coffin of an English woman.

[pathfinder73]

Why did they get new mobile phones on 4 May 2007? Why did they delete call records on their old mobiles that same day before police examined them? Why didn't they inform the police that they had deleted records?

The new mobiles prove they had other contacts in Portugal that should be investigated. Did any own property in Luz?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would you think he was alive in the trunk of a car when a body was found? 

Because the dogs were tracker dogs, not cadaver dogs.  At what point does a person stop smelling of themselves and starting smelling of a cadaver? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why did they get new mobile phones on 4 May 2007? Why did they delete call records on their old mobiles that same day before police examined them? Why didn't they inform the police that they had deleted records?

The new mobiles prove they had other contacts in Portugal that should be investigated. Did any of them own property in Luz?

Explain.

[pathfinder73]

4 May 2007

"I mean, S brother err is a gentleman called Nand N's wife N had got friends out in the Algarve."

"People who were just willing to help us in whatever capacity it was, whether we wanted a room for the night or anything."

"I quickly popped downstairs, got the phones, and took them back into the Police Station."

"There was, there was two err and we ended up, err again, we ended up keeping one and Kate and Gerry had one, I think we gave the second one to Kate and Gerry as well after a while."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

4 May 2007

"I mean, S brother err is a gentleman called Nand N's wife N had got friends out in the Algarve."

"People who were just willing to help us in whatever capacity it was, whether we wanted a room for the night or anything."

"I quickly popped downstairs, got the phones, and took them back into the Police Station."

"There was, there was two err and we ended up, err again, we ended up keeping one and Kate and Gerry had one, I think we gave the second one to Kate and Gerry as well after a while."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

And this proves the McCanns had contacts in Portugal does it?  LOL.

[pathfinder73]

IMO 3 were involved. If any of these contacts had property in Luz then of course that should be investigated. Lace claiming it's impossible is nonsense! It wasn't impossible for them to get keys to the church? The locals thought so 

[Vertigo Swirl]

IMO 3 were involved. If any of these contacts had property in Luz then of course that should be investigated. Lace claiming it's impossible is nonsense! It wasn't impossible for them to get keys to the church? The locals thought so 

Talk us through the chain of events then.  The McCanns ask Payne to source keys to a house belonging to a contact on the ground with a convenient freezer, is that it?  The conspiracy reaches far and wide does it not? 

[barrier]

Talk us through the chain of events then.  The McCanns ask Payne to source keys to a house belonging to a contact on the ground with a convenient freezer, is that it?  The conspiracy reaches far and wide does it not?

If Madeleine was stolen to order and smuggled out the country then yes the conspiracy reaches far and wide,both are either ridiculous or both have merits,what'll it be?

[Vertigo Swirl]

If Madeleine was stolen to order and smuggled out the country then yes the conspiracy reaches far and wide,both are either ridiculous or both have merits,what'll it be?

Jeez, you really are the King Of Deflection today aren't you?  Explain how BOTH are ridiculous - one being an unforseen accidental death and a hurry to rope in all manner of uninvolved people into the cover up, one being a planned kidnap, stolen to order?   In your own time...

[pathfinder73]

Jeez, you really are the King Of Deflection today aren't you?  Explain how BOTH are ridiculous - one being an unforseen accidental death and a hurry to rope in all manner of uninvolved people into the cover up, one being a planned kidnap, stolen to order?   In your own time...

Have you found the getaway vehicle if you believe in a planned abduction? Or don't you think they had a vehicle close by? Who are your suspects? Have you found any leads in the police files?