Author Topic: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata  (Read 255817 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1275 on: July 18, 2019, 07:52:45 PM »
The judge may have been persuaded by the rest of the evidence, and allowed the testimony presented by Grime.  If you feel Lane has been wrongly convicted, you could be right, it won't be the first time a jury has come to the wrong conclusion.

Idont feel lane has been wrongly convicted..from the evidence he appears to be guilty

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1276 on: July 18, 2019, 07:56:30 PM »
the court referred to the alerts as evidence....grime testified ...according to the court report of the appeal...yo testify is to give evidence. THe alerts would ahve no value as evidence wirhout grimes testimony
You have that wrong.  He could say it depends on others doing the lab testing and what others confess to.
Without the full transcript we are only guessing I'm afraid.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1277 on: July 18, 2019, 07:58:22 PM »
You have that wrong.  He could say it depends on others doing the lab testing and what others confess to.

Im not wrong...Grime submitted the training records for his dogs....his testimony is essential

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1278 on: July 18, 2019, 07:58:51 PM »
DETROIT (WWJ) – A  judge has set bond at $3 million for D’Andre Lane, saying he’s disturbed by evidence submitted that indicates cadaver dogs detected signs of a dead body at the man’s home.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1279 on: July 18, 2019, 08:03:18 PM »
Im not wrong...Grime submitted the training records for his dogs....his testimony is essential
His dogs were trained and tested so why are you objecting to that?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1280 on: July 18, 2019, 08:06:22 PM »
DETROIT (WWJ) – A  judge has set bond at $3 million for D’Andre Lane, saying he’s disturbed by evidence submitted that indicates cadaver dogs detected signs of a dead body at the man’s home.
So what was at home?  Was it the car seat?  Knowing how the gangsters work I don't find it surprising "cadaver dogs detected signs of a dead body at the man’s home".
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1281 on: July 18, 2019, 08:07:51 PM »
His dogs were trained and tested so why are you objecting to that?

i said grime presented evidence....he did...thats  all i said,...why does gunit object to that

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1282 on: July 18, 2019, 08:12:19 PM »
I don't feel lane has been wrongly convicted..from the evidence he appears to be guilty
You are not being honesty with me Davel.  You know full well what you say is ambiguous.
"from the evidence he appears to be guilty"  From what evidence?  Does that evidence include Grime's testimony that you appear to object to?
What evidence would have proven him guilty without Grime's testimony?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1283 on: July 18, 2019, 08:14:06 PM »
i said grime presented evidence....he did...thats  all i said,...why does gunit object to that
It the way you say it. 

"thats  all i said"  I'll be surprised if you can prove that?

"Davel: "Grime presented the cadaver dog evidence to the court

G-unit: Did he refer to it as evidence?"
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1284 on: July 18, 2019, 08:22:34 PM »
Would you be happy with "Grime presented his interpretation of the cadaver dog alerts as evidence to the court"
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1285 on: July 18, 2019, 08:26:34 PM »
going even further:

We could even add the word "anecdotal" into that sentence for Grime's interpretation will at times be wrong too.

"Grime presented his anecdotal interpretation of the cadaver dog alerts as evidence to the court"
Anecdotal:
(adjective)
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1286 on: July 18, 2019, 08:30:59 PM »
You are not being honesty with me Davel.  You know full well what you say is ambiguous.
"from the evidence he appears to be guilty"  From what evidence?  Does that evidence include Grime's testimony that you appear top object to?
What evidence would have proven him guilty without Grime's testimony?

Diont accuse me of not being honest because you can't understand a simple post... Based on all the other evidence he appears to be guilty...

Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1287 on: July 18, 2019, 08:32:50 PM »
Grime testified..re the alerts... grine submitted the dogs training  report into evidence..the court did not exclude the cadaver dog evidence...wahts the oath in the US...in the Uk its...the evidence i shall give

Was he supposed to refuse to testify? Falsify Morse's records to make him look bad? What?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1288 on: July 18, 2019, 08:33:04 PM »
going even further:

We could even add the word "anecdotal" into that sentence for Grime's interpretation will at times be wrong too.

"Grime presented his anecdotal interpretation of the cadaver dog alerts as evidence to the court"
Anecdotal:
(adjective)
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

Probably best for you not to comment on something you don't appear to understand

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1289 on: July 18, 2019, 08:35:25 PM »
Was he supposed to refuse to testify? Falsify Morse's records to make him look bad? What?

Another one...I simply said he gave evidence.. You seem to want to argue over nothing
Grime gave evidence as he saw fit.. That's his job