Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

Early days yet.  But you know what I said.

I know everything youve said rob....ive  a memory like a quantum computer

[Robittybob1]

I know everything youve said rob....ive  a memory like a quantum computer

I've heard quantum computer are very good at giving answers to difficult questions.  You ought to try that too!

[Mr Gray]

I've heard quantum computer are very good at giving answers to difficult questions.  You ought to try that too!

I havent seen any difficult questions here

[Mr Gray]

My problem with Martin grime is that during the searches in luz he was ceasing to be a policeman and becoming a businessman. As a businessman he has a financial interest in promoting the alerts as valuable.....that to me provides a conflict of interest. Ive no doubt he believes in the ability of his dogs...but can we rule out confirmation bias.

[Robittybob1]

My problem with Martin grime is that during the searches in luz he was ceasing to be a policeman and becoming a businessman. As a businessman he has a financial interest in promoting the alerts as valuable.....that to me provides a conflict of interest. Ive no doubt he believes in the ability of his dogs...but can we rule out confirmation bias.

Even lawyers have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.  Career boost if they win a case.
Journalists  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.
Police  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.

Who doesn't  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with?

[Mr Gray]

Even lawyers have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.  Career boost if they win a case.
Journalists  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.
Police  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with.

Who doesn't  have a financial interest in the cases they get involved with?

so you accept grime has a financial interest in the acceptence of the alerts..that'll do for now

i agree with you re lawyers and police...they misrepresent and supress evidence that doesnt suit them..its endemic in the justice system...grime was  a policeman

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

From a business perspective Grime has absolutely nothing to gain if the dogs alert randomly and no human cellular material is found.

[Mr Gray]

From a business perspective Grime has absolutely nothing to gain if the dogs alert randomly and no human cellular material is found.

Obviously not true..there was no confirmed human cellular material in Jersey..around 100k..no cellular material in Detroit..no record of what was paid

[Robittybob1]

Obviously not true..there was no confirmed human cellular material in Jersey..around 100k..no cellular material in Detroit..no record of what was paid

He has a fee.  There will be others in the market. 

[Mr Gray]

He has a fee.  There will be others in the market.

Yes it's a buyer's market...what price justice

[Mr Gray]

From a business perspective Grime has absolutely nothing to gain if the dogs alert randomly and no human cellular material is found.

Alerts are now confirmed by anecdotal witness statements..could be described as a great business move

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Alerts are now confirmed by anecdotal witness statements..could be described as a great business move

No I don’t buy that. All you have to do is read what Martin Grime was saying at the time. He was quite clear!

Just think about it - who in there right mind would pay for the services of a dog that barks?!!!!!

[Mr Gray]

No I don’t buy that. All you have to do is read what Martin Grime was saying at the time. He was quite clear!

Just think about it - who in there right mind would pay for the services of a dog that barks?!!!!!

You obviously haven't read Grimes latest white paper..
And who would pay for a dog that barked...the Americans

That's not opinion..it's fact

[Robittybob1]

You obviously haven't read Grimes latest white paper..
And who would pay for a dog that barked...the Americans

That's not opinion..it's fact

Because the intelligence gained saves money in the long run.  "Value for money" is a term he often talks about.

[Vertigo Swirl]

WTF?

What does that have to do with Davel's link???

Answers on a postage stamp please!!!

I made no reference to Davel’s link, only to Robitty’s assertion that dogs have a better sense of smell than humans.  We know you believe this is nonsense but have remained silent on the subject in this debate which I find slightly curious, that’s all.