Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Robittybob1]

The longer version - does it contain the Grime bit?  "Send in the Dogs - Season 1, Episode 1"  https://youtu.be/zFCt9gUq9XE  That one wasn't put onTouTube by Hi DE HO.

It was from Episode 2 
Send in the Dogs - Season 1, Episode 2 first 8 minutes or so.

[barrier]

According to the police, based on the Shannon Matthews case, the odour is transferrable on inanimate objects. If this is the case surely the scenarios are numerous as to why and how a dog would alert based on odour? 

@ 2.30 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc3C6csaHI

The granddaughter.

No mention there of dead grandparents in 5a.

[Holly Goodhead]

No mention there of dead grandparents in 5a.

I didn't say anything about dead grandparents.

No need for any dead bodies to alert.  The UK police have already established the dogs will alert when they come into contact with inanimate items that have been around the deceased even when those inanimate objects have been transferred to another completely different location.

[barrier]

I didn't say anything about dead grandparents.

No need for any dead bodies to alert.  The UK police have already established the dogs will alert when they come into contact with inanimate items that have been around the deceased even when those inanimate objects have been transferred to another completely different location.

You brought a granddaughter into it, for what purpose? Who lives near the holiday complex?

[Robittybob1]

Would it?  Do skin rafts work in the same way dead or alive?

Alive I believe.

Recent deaths .  "Different cells die at different rates. After the heart stops beating, oxygen supply to the brain is cut off. With no glucose store to rely on, nerve cells die within three to seven minutes.

Transplant surgeons must remove kidneys, livers and hearts from donors within thirty minutes of death and get them into recipients inside six hours. Skin cells, meanwhile, are longer lived. Grafts can still be successful if taken 12 hours after death." http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130526-do-your-nails-grow-after-death

I have limited proof otherwise.

[Holly Goodhead]

Recent deaths .  "Different cells die at different rates. After the heart stops beating, oxygen supply to the brain is cut off. With no glucose store to rely on, nerve cells die within three to seven minutes.

Transplant surgeons must remove kidneys, livers and hearts from donors within thirty minutes of death and get them into recipients inside six hours. Skin cells, meanwhile, are longer lived. Grafts can still be successful if taken 12 hours after death." http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130526-do-your-nails-grow-after-death

I have limited proof otherwise.

Thanks.  The scent works off skin rafts not to be confused with grafts.

http://www.vsrda.org/how-scent-and-airflow-works

[Robittybob1]

Thanks.  The scent works off skin rafts not to be confused with grafts.

http://www.vsrda.org/how-scent-and-airflow-works

There will be plenty of skin rafts to break off a recently deceased person.  All I'm pointing out is that a trail is left by a dead or living person.  Only difference is that one is possible on their own but the other has to be carried.

[Holly Goodhead]

Then took her to the hills and buried her,or do you think Redwood dug up the countryside just for something to do and waste a fair amount of budget in the process?

Hills?  No idea why Redwood dug up the countryside? 

[Holly Goodhead]

You brought a granddaughter into it, for what purpose? Who lives near the holiday complex?

I said a set of grandparents lived at 5A.  You asked for me a source and I provided the granddaughter's account.  If  her grandfather is Michael William McCann I believe he passed away in 2006 in Liverpool.  But as I keep pointing out the UK police have confirmed the odour is transferrable from one location to another via inanimate objects. 

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I didn't say anything about dead grandparents.

No need for any dead bodies to alert.  The UK police have already established the dogs will alert when they come into contact with inanimate items that have been around the deceased even when those inanimate objects have been transferred to another completely different location.

But you’re forgetting they also used Keela who very successfully found human cellular material. Some of this material had at least 15 DNA markers in common with MM.

[Robittybob1]

But you’re forgetting they also used Keela who very successfully found human cellular material. Some of this material had at least 15 DNA markers in common with MM.

That sample came from the hire car.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

That sample came from the hire car.

Yes I believe so.

Sample 3A I from under the floor tiles also contained a number of DNA markers in common with MM, from what I can remember.

[Holly Goodhead]

But you’re forgetting they also used Keela who very successfully found human cellular material. Some of this material had at least 15 DNA markers in common with MM.

I'm not forgetting anything.  Human cellular material, which in this case was invisible to the naked eye, would be all over the apartment including MM's.  LCN works off samples as small as 1,000,000 size of a grain of salt.  The FSS found the findings inconclusive.

[Eleanor]

Hills?  No idea why Redwood dug up the countryside?

Redwood simply did what should have been done in the beginning.  There was always a possibility no matter who may have tried to dispose of a body.

[Holly Goodhead]

There will be plenty of skin rafts to break off a recently deceased person.  All I'm pointing out is that a trail is left by a dead or living person.  Only difference is that one is possible on their own but the other has to be carried.

With respect you are not an expert.  You do not know how skin rafts are affected upon death no more than I do.