Author Topic: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata  (Read 294804 times)

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1800 on: July 26, 2019, 08:53:50 AM »
Let's leave "no stone unturned"... Let's at least take Dr Purlin up on his offer of making a conclusive analysis of the DNA data. Yes of course some traceable DNA belonging to MM should have been present in 5A... sweat, urine, saliva on bed clothes and pillow cases, for example. The point is though that Keela was trained to alert to human blood and not to sweat, urine and saliva. If the dogs alerted at such things = they wouldn't have been so selective in  their alerts. It defies all objectivity to think otherwise.

And skin cells which humans shed at the rate of 30,000 - 40,000 per minute every day.  LCN DNA works off samples as small as 1,000,000 the size of a grain of salt so of course MM's DNA would be all over 5A through direct and indirect contamination and in the hire car via indirect contamination.

Surely the point is that the locations Keela alerted to no blood was visible to the naked eye.  The location was swabbed and sent to FSS in UK.  Result = inconclusive.  What inference(s) do you wish to draw from this if not as FSS reported?

Look at GM's reported answer when asked if MM lost any blood in the apartment. Sure it doesn't prove anything, but there is circumstantial evidence and warranted inquisitive suspicion that make the parents worthy of further investigation. This is the route the PJ undoubtedly wanting to take initially (well after discounting the abduction story). They felt pressure was applied by figures in the UK establishment not to follow this line of inquiry and essential work was therefore hampered. MM has been cheated of a proper investigation. Instead we suffered the appalling media stories (often controlled by CM, IMO) of lurking predators, paedophiles and child traffickers (but of course there was "no evidence that MM had come to harm"... we had faux police press conferences led by a political spin doctor, IMO. Nothing of the like has ever been seen before.

Of course the McCanns should have been considered suspects from the off as all the research shows if small children are involved in foul play it often involves the parents or others known to the children.  But robust scientific evidence can't be conjured up based on hunches and there's not a shred of evidence to suggest the McCanns were involved. 

On what basis did the PJ rule out abduction?

I agree the idea a lone predatory paedophile or criminal gangs were hanging around defies all logic.  The McCanns had only been in Portugal for a little over 5 days when MM was reported missing.  No British child in the history of tourism to Europe has disappeared in similar circumstances before or since.

I take little notice of what the McCanns said or didn't say along with T7 and CM.  Especially CM as he comes over as pompous and bumbling imo.   
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1801 on: July 26, 2019, 09:43:02 AM »
Sorry I missed the point about Dr Mark Perlin.  Well its not for me to say if the FSS/SY/PJ will handover biological samples to Dr Mark Perlin in the US.

I doubt any findings will stand up to scientific scrutiny unless they have been peer reviewed.     
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1802 on: July 27, 2019, 04:22:13 AM »
Sorry I missed the point about Dr Mark Perlin.  Well its not for me to say if the FSS/SY/PJ will handover biological samples to Dr Mark Perlin in the US.

I doubt any findings will stand up to scientific scrutiny unless they have been peer reviewed.   
If my theory is correct then SY will not be allowed to hand over the DNA results to Mark Perlin for confidentiality reasons.  For SY to insist the McCanns and their friends are "not suspects" implies to me least that behind the scenes they have admitted what happened that night, and therefore all aspects of "however Madeleine left the apartment" are totally off limits.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1803 on: July 27, 2019, 08:40:46 AM »
Sorry I missed the point about Dr Mark Perlin.  Well its not for me to say if the FSS/SY/PJ will handover biological samples to Dr Mark Perlin in the US.

I doubt any findings will stand up to scientific scrutiny unless they have been peer reviewed.   

I'd be very surprised if there are any biological samples. Weren't they destroyed? I thought Perlin needed the results, not the samples? The FSS results were withdrawn from the archives in 2012, I think it was, according to Mark Saunokonoko. I do hope they haven't been mislaid.
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #1804 on: July 27, 2019, 09:12:28 AM »
If my theory is correct then SY will not be allowed to hand over the DNA results to Mark Perlin for confidentiality reasons.  For SY to insist the McCanns and their friends are "not suspects" implies to me least that behind the scenes they have admitted what happened that night, and therefore all aspects of "however Madeleine left the apartment" are totally off limits.


Ooh goody, another conspiracy theory   8(*(
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1805 on: July 27, 2019, 09:43:57 AM »

Ooh goody, another conspiracy theory   8(*(
That is not a conspiracy but a consequence of going through Crimestoppers.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1806 on: July 27, 2019, 09:49:38 AM »
That is not a conspiracy but a consequence of going through Crimestoppers.

Who went through Crimestoppers? How do you know? If you're guessing then you're theorising.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1807 on: July 27, 2019, 09:53:54 AM »
Who went through Crimestoppers? How do you know? If you're guessing then you're theorising.
If they used Crimestoppers you get anonymity and we wouldn't know. 
All we know is that SY said  "However Madeleine left the apartment she was abducted"  now that does not make sense to me unless someone has anonymously explained How Madeleine left the apartment.

How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?
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Offline jassi

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1808 on: July 27, 2019, 10:17:53 AM »
If they used Crimestoppers you get anonymity and we wouldn't know. 
All we know is that SY said  "However Madeleine left the apartment she was abducted"  now that does not make sense to me unless someone has anonymously explained How Madeleine left the apartment.

How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?

So nothing to support your suggestion, just the usual speculation.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1809 on: July 27, 2019, 10:33:06 AM »
If they used Crimestoppers you get anonymity and we wouldn't know. 
All we know is that SY said  "However Madeleine left the apartment she was abducted"  now that does not make sense to me unless someone has anonymously explained How Madeleine left the apartment.

How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?

I find it interesting that you think Mark Rowley's statement needs explaining, even though I find your explanation unlikely. .
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1810 on: July 27, 2019, 12:04:30 PM »
So nothing to support your suggestion, just the usual speculation.
How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1811 on: July 27, 2019, 12:05:11 PM »
I find it interesting that you think Mark Rowley's statement needs explaining, even though I find your explanation unlikely. .
How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?
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Offline barrier

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1812 on: July 27, 2019, 12:13:26 PM »
How do you explain what Mark Rowley told us on the 10th anniversary?

Which bit Rob,he said a lot without saying anything imo.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1813 on: July 27, 2019, 12:20:02 PM »
Which bit Rob,he said a lot without saying anything imo.
""However Madeleine left the apartment....."
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Offline barrier

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #1814 on: July 27, 2019, 04:58:03 PM »
""However Madeleine left the apartment....."


I can't find the video,but I'm sure after the "however" there was pause meaning the manner.

Found it,he paused after "however she left the apartment" then said she's been abducted,not once did he say by a stranger.

2:12 in he says "there needs to be an abduction" ?

https://metro.co.uk/video/assistant-commissioner-mark-rowley-missing-maddie-mccann-1882464/
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