Author Topic: May 3rd 2007.  (Read 14974 times)

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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2019, 09:22:53 PM »
as far as the smiths are concerned..they didnt even see his fce...

Where on earth did you get that from? All you seem to want to do is discredit anything that links the disappearance to the parents... We should stick to the facts as they were described by those that witnessed them:

" His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good" (Martin Smith's statement)

"At the time she saw his face but now cannot remember it. She thinks that he had a clean-shaven face. She does not remember seeing tattoos, scars or earrings. She did not notice his ears. His hair was thick-ish, light brown in colour, short at the back (normal) and a bit longer on the top. " (Aofie Smith's statement)

"The description of the individual who carried the child was: Caucasian, around 175 to 180 cm tall. About 35 years, or older. He was somewhat tanned as a result of sun exposure. Average build, in good shape. Short hair, brown in colour. He does not remember if he wore glasses, or had a beard or a moustache." (Peter Smith's statement)

So they did see his face!!

The big question for me is why didn't Mitchell present Smithman as a suspect?


Offline G-Unit

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2019, 09:38:51 PM »
Have you see  the register sheets for the other groups that day? Are all the other T9 children accounted for?

No, only the sheets showing Madeleine and E**a and those showing the twins and L**y Payne.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2019, 09:48:51 PM »
Where on earth did you get that from? All you seem to want to do is discredit anything that links the disappearance to the parents... We should stick to the facts as they were described by those that witnessed them:

" His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good" (Martin Smith's statement)

"At the time she saw his face but now cannot remember it. She thinks that he had a clean-shaven face. She does not remember seeing tattoos, scars or earrings. She did not notice his ears. His hair was thick-ish, light brown in colour, short at the back (normal) and a bit longer on the top. " (Aofie Smith's statement)

"The description of the individual who carried the child was: Caucasian, around 175 to 180 cm tall. About 35 years, or older. He was somewhat tanned as a result of sun exposure. Average build, in good shape. Short hair, brown in colour. He does not remember if he wore glasses, or had a beard or a moustache." (Peter Smith's statement)

So they did see his face!!

The big question for me is why didn't Mitchell present Smithman as a suspect?

Smith... Who Said he was 60 to 80% sure it was Gerry.. Did not see his face.. Aoifee.. May have seen his face but didn't say she thought it was gerry

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2019, 09:51:41 PM »
Smith... Who Said he was 60 to 80% sure it was Gerry.. Did not see his face.. Aoifee.. May have seen his face but didn't say she thought it was gerry

How could he tell he wasn't wearing glasses & had no beard or moustache if he didn't see his face?

Explain that one to me Sherlock.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2019, 09:52:09 PM »
Smith... Who Said he was 60 to 80% sure it was Gerry.. Did not see his face.. Aoifee.. May have seen his face but didn't say she thought it was gerry
This didn't happen on the 3rd so should be removed - what do you think G-unit? 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2019, 09:55:41 PM »
How could he tell he wasn't wearing glasses & had no beard or moustache if he didn't see his face?

Explain that one to me Sherlock.
Face means a view from face on.  A side on view of the head is not the face, but reveals beards or moustaches.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2019, 09:58:50 PM »
Face means face on.  A side on view of the head is not the face, but reveals beards or moustaches.

Bull crap.

People don't have beards or moustaches, or glasses for that matter, on their heads.

They have them on their faces.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2019, 10:07:48 PM »
This didn't happen on the 3rd so should be removed - what do you think G-unit?
I was replying to sil who introduced the Smiths to the thread

Offline Robittybob1

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2019, 10:23:43 PM »
I was replying to sil who introduced the Smiths to the thread
I know the Smiths saw the man on the 3rd but linking that to G McCann didn't happen on the 3rd.  Just keep to the topic please.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2019, 10:25:29 PM »
I know the Smiths saw the man on the 3rd but linking that to G McCann didn't happen on the 3rd.  Just keep to the topic please.

Sils statement that the mccanns and smiths have more information is nothing to do with the 3rd either

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2019, 10:29:47 PM »
Smith... Who Said he was 60 to 80% sure it was Gerry.. Did not see his face.. Aoifee.. May have seen his face but didn't say she thought it was gerry

Utter rubbish. You can't state someone isn't wearing glasses unless you have seen their face. Why are you so defensive about the Smith sighting... ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2019, 10:32:19 PM »
Utter rubbish. You can't state someone isn't wearing glasses unless you have seen their face. Why are you so defensive about the Smith sighting..

All off topic it seems.. I'm interested in the truth..I think it's, reasonably important
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2019, 10:39:37 PM »
From the OP: "Starting with the morning, I thought it might be useful to review the day up until the timeline produced by the T9."
Please keep to that limitation as respect to the OP.
No dogs - any mention of dogs will be removed unless G-unit gives OK.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2019, 10:41:56 PM »
Starting with the morning, I thought it might be useful to review the day up until the timeline produced by the T9.
Please keep to that limitation as respect to the OP.
No dogs - any mention of dogs will be removed unless G-unit gives OK.

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IMO it's, a totally pointless thread.. How can you build up a picture of the 3rd if you don't know how accurate the statements are
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: May 3rd 2007.
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2019, 10:42:20 PM »
All off topic it seems.. I'm interested in the truth..I think it's, reasonably important

How will you find that if you try to discredit certain aspects as they are reported? The Smith sighting was on May 3rd it's on topic. We can't then pretend the later linking to GM just didn't happen and that it's off topic. They are directly related.

The other aspects I listed are all examples of other topics (like the Smith sighting on May 3rd) that some people, yourself included IMO, are incredibly defensive about.