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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1425 on: July 08, 2020, 03:22:09 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1426 on: July 08, 2020, 03:24:24 PM »
SY have confirmed in a FOI request that they still have the DNA data for analysis. So they can share it with Dr Perlin as part of their investigation.

if they have breukners DNA they may already have eliminated him from the dna sample...sorry to burst your bubble

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1427 on: July 08, 2020, 06:21:11 PM »
if they have breukners DNA they may already have eliminated him from the dna sample...sorry to burst your bubble

I haven't seen one shred of evidence that he set foot in 5A. So you're not bursting anything!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1428 on: July 08, 2020, 06:30:37 PM »
I haven't seen one shred of evidence that he set foot in 5A. So you're not bursting anything!

they have his dna...so perlin wont be any help to show he has...just ponting out the obvious

Offline Carana

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1429 on: July 08, 2020, 09:05:16 PM »
I doubt it too but you never know... it would confirm an abduction anyway! Dr Perlin reckons he can reach a conclusive analysis of the DNA data in two weeks. There's nothing to lose in taking him up on this offer.

A conclusive analysis of what? His system is a probabilistic black box.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1430 on: July 09, 2020, 01:43:54 PM »
they have his dna...so perlin wont be any help to show he has...just ponting out the obvious

He could see if it matched the blood human cellular material on swab 3A.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1431 on: July 09, 2020, 01:57:34 PM »
He could see if it matched the blood human cellular material on swab 3A.

No supporter wants that as they are running scared. None of them believe the Germans DNA will be inside apartment 5A or they would be supporting new tests.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1432 on: July 09, 2020, 03:33:41 PM »
He could see if it matched the blood human cellular material on swab 3A.

Why was there nothing on swab 3b?

Offline Carana

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1433 on: July 09, 2020, 03:35:41 PM »
No supporter wants that as they are running scared. None of them believe the Germans DNA will be inside apartment 5A or they would be supporting new tests.

New tests? From 5a, when it was rented out 4 times after she disappeared and however many people have occupied it since?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1434 on: July 09, 2020, 03:45:13 PM »
No supporter wants that as they are running scared. None of them believe the Germans DNA will be inside apartment 5A or they would be supporting new tests.

They dont need any new tests. They can simply look at how many markers of CB are in the mixed sample and they may well have already done that. As I recall the data file was removed around  ayear ago.

Offline Carana

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1435 on: July 09, 2020, 04:04:29 PM »
I haven't followed forensic hair analysis for a while. The PT lab (INML) couldn't find enough nDNA for analysis, but noted numerous mtDNA results which didn't correspond to any of the reference samples that they could compare them with.

It's therefore possible that one of the unknown profiles could correspond to Christian B or eventually to an accomplice.

However, as forensic science seems to have advanced, it may now be possible to narrow down mtDNA results of samples.

It might be helpful if they could locate the missing hairs from her bed....

Offline Carana

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1436 on: July 09, 2020, 05:20:38 PM »
if they have breukners DNA they may already have eliminated him from the dna sample...sorry to burst your bubble

I still don't know which DNA sample is being referred to.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1437 on: July 09, 2020, 07:39:06 PM »
Why was there nothing on swab 3b?

There was DNA on swab 3b

"In my opinion there is no evidence to support the view that Madeleine McCann contributed DNA to this result" (FSS Report)

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1438 on: July 09, 2020, 07:41:04 PM »
A conclusive analysis of what? His system is a probabilistic black box.

When your critique of his methods are published in peer reviewed forensic science journals I will take your questions seriously.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1439 on: July 09, 2020, 07:41:49 PM »
New tests? From 5a, when it was rented out 4 times after she disappeared and however many people have occupied it since?

No... new analysis on the DNA data!