The phone call

[Myster]

Oh, come off it mrswah!   An ex-WWII mosquito pilot, trained in the use of firearms and a life-long user of them, who also blinded a relative in one eye with a deflected bullet and therefore was well aware of the damage they can do, suddenly becomes wimpy, thinks that Sheila is only pretending and fails to tackle her immediately?  Never in a million years.  It just wouldn't happen.

[Admin]

Oh, come off it mrswah!   An ex-WWII mosquito pilot, trained in the use of firearms and a life-long user of them, who also blinded a relative in one eye with a deflected bullet and therefore was well aware of the damage they can do, suddenly becomes wimpy, thinks that Sheila is only pretending and fails to tackle her immediately?  Never in a million years.  It just wouldn't happen.

Nevill would have disarmed her instantly without a shadow of a doubt.  In order to overcome Nevill, a strong physical presence was needed.  Sheila most certainly wasn't that person.

[Caroline]

It is possible that Nevill came downstairs to phone Jeremy and/or the police,  knowing that Sheila had got hold of a gun (maybe she had done this before---who knows?), but never dreaming that she'd actually shoot anyone with it. Perhaps he didn't even think she was capable. Then, he heard shots, ran upstairs, and was shot himself, tried to escape, and was killed downstairs.

Just a scenario---not saying it actually happened, and not dismissing the possibility of Jeremy having done it!

KNowing guns as well as he did, he would have noticed that she had attached the magazine rendering it dangerous - he wouldn't have left her with a loaded gun in a state where she was both a danger to herself and others.

[Holly Goodhead]

You claimed he was shot twice in the back upstairs.  Presumably you believe be survived long enough to walk down the stairs to die in the kitchen?  And there’s a trail of his blood to support this hypothesis?

I didn't say NB was shot in the back.  I said he was shot in the rear when he was on the main staircase.

No one disputes NB was shot 4 times upstairs and 4 times in the kitchen as per the casings.  Any of the gunshot wounds he sustained in the kitchen immobilised him immediately.  So given his body was found in the kitchen we know he must have died there unless you want to get into SC or JB moving this 6' 4" muscular male along with the casings.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I didn't say NB was shot in the back.  I said he was shot in the rear when he was on the main staircase.

No one disputes NB was shot 4 times upstairs and 4 times in the kitchen as per the casings.  Any of the gunshot wounds he sustained in the kitchen immobilised him immediately.  So given his body was found in the kitchen we know he must have died there unless you want to get into SC or JB moving this 6' 4" muscular male along with the casings.

So he gets up, sees Sheila with a gun, goes downstairs, phones Bamber, hears shots, goes back upstairs, gets shot twice in the rear, then goes back down stairs (blood trail?), followed by Sheila, who shoots him 4 times when he is in the kitchen.  When does she reload the gun and what is Nevill doing at this point?

[G-Unit]

Did people here know Nevill Bamber so well that they can tell us how he would have reacted to a situation even though they don't actually know for sure what the  situation was?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did people here know Nevill Bamber so well that they can tell us how he would have reacted to a situation even though they don't actually know for sure what the  situation was?

Some people here seem to know Sheila so well that they think they know how she would have reacted to the suggestion she go to Bournemouth and that she was capable of  murdering her nearest and dearest because of it .

[APRIL]

Did people here know Nevill Bamber so well that they can tell us how he would have reacted to a situation even though they don't actually know for sure what the  situation was?

Given his background as a war hero, his standing in the community, his position as magistrate, the testimonies of friends and employees, I think it's possible to make an intelligent guess.

[mrswah]

Unless there are posters on here who are close to the family, I think we are all guessing!  Of course we don't know what Nevill and Sheila were really like. We have probably all become so involved with discussing the case , that it feels as if we know what they were like.

[APRIL]

Unless there are posters on here who are close to the family, I think we are all guessing!  Of course we don't know what Nevill and Sheila were really like. We have probably all become so involved with discussing the case , that it feels as if we know what they were like.

Then I guess you'd have to say that all the glowing testimonies given by his friends, colleagues, and employees are lies. I agree that we all probably think we know them well, when in fact, we only know them for a very short and tragic period in their lives.

[G-Unit]

Given his background as a war hero, his standing in the community, his position as magistrate, the testimonies of friends and employees, I think it's possible to make an intelligent guess.

I'm sure Nevill Bamber was a respected member of the community, but that's not enough to predict his actions when faced with a family crisis.

[APRIL]

I'm sure Nevill Bamber was a respected member of the community, but that's not enough to predict his actions when faced with a family crisis.

What others have to say can give good guidance and insight to a person's character and make intelligent guesses more likely to be right than wrong. I've yet to hear anything positive said of Jeremy. Again, intelligent guesses can't all be wrong.

[G-Unit]

What others have to say can give good guidance and insight to a person's character and make intelligent guesses more likely to be right than wrong. I've yet to hear anything positive said of Jeremy. Again, intelligent guesses can't all be wrong.

Adoption societies used to rely on people's public personnas to make judgements about their suitability to parent children. The truth of the matter is that a person's public personna is only one part of their character.

[mrswah]

I'm sure Nevill Bamber was a respected member of the community, but that's not enough to predict his actions when faced with a family crisis.

From what I have read, June was also a respected member of her community, but it seems that Sheila, Colin and the twins had issues with her.

[Caroline]

Did people here know Nevill Bamber so well that they can tell us how he would have reacted to a situation even though they don't actually know for sure what the  situation was?

I think it's safe to say he wasn't an idiot and so had a pretty good handle on common sense.