Paedophiles in Parliament

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have never denied the possibility. A possibility isn't a fact, however, and some people are behaving as if it is. I would like to see it acknowleged as an opinion, which you seem to have confirmed is your view.

Of course it's an opinion.  Even psychiatrists are only offering an opinion, albeit one based on extensive study of the subject. 

[Caroline]

I have never denied the possibility. A possibility isn't a fact, however, and some people are behaving as if it is. I would like to see it acknowleged as an opinion, which you seem to have confirmed is your view.

It's a fact that he was classified as such by someone who was qualified to state it. You're even denying that!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Why don't people understand that assertions aren't facts?

Why can’t people accept FACTS?

Jeremy Bamber was certified a psychopath whilst on remand by the prison psychiatrist.

Fact.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

'Excuses' is your word. I prefer 'possibilities'. The amateur psychiatrists on here seem to think they can make diagnoses.

Psychopaths or idiots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS9LUVVb434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2NFrs910mk

And you think you can deduce that Jeremy Bamber isn’t a psychopath despite not being medically qualified, either?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Each example, standing alone, like those 'reasons' given for ALL his behaviours/traits, I agree, are not. However when ALL those behaviours/traits are added together?............. a very clear picture starts to emerge which is rather different from the one Auntie A knew.

Off topic, I know...but did AA show any of JB’s letters?

I haven’t come across any...maybe I missed them

[ISpyWithMyEye]

They're isolated incidents which have been cobbled together to make him seem psychopathic, but many boys and men have done similar things. He had grown up in the same dysfunctional family as Sheila, remember. His mother was a religious maniac and his father wasn't very empathetic. He thought it was funny to pretend to reps that he was going to give them a big order when he wasn't and laughed his head off when a mouse frightened Barbara Wilson. David Boutflour had noticed that when the Pargeter children visited both Sheila and Jeremy felt unloved and pushed out.

You’re quoting what Jeremy Bamber claimed, and he’s a pathological liar.

I don’t believe for a second that Nevill pretended to reps that he was going to give them a big order and then laughed his head off at their disappointment. They’re the thoughts of a psychopath, and that psychopath is Jeremy Bamber. Nevill was a respectable hard-working businessman — as if he’d do an insane thing like that ?! And harm his reputation to boot!  That’s what JEREMY would find fun.

As for the mouse, most men laugh when they see women screeching at seeing a mouse. They’re not laughing SADISTICALLY, they find the woman’s reaction funny as all they see themselves is a tiny mouse....

I bet Nevill wouldn’t have laughed had he caught you back heeling his little dog...and then saw you smirking.

[Holly Goodhead]

Why can’t people accept FACTS?

Jeremy Bamber was certified a psychopath whilst on remand by the prison psychiatrist.

Fact.

How can anyone interpret the following as evidence of psychopathy?

[Caroline]

How can anyone interpret the following as evidence of psychopathy?

How can they not?

[G-Unit]

You’re quoting what Jeremy Bamber claimed, and he’s a pathological liar.

I don’t believe for a second that Nevill pretended to reps that he was going to give them a big order and then laughed his head off at their disappointment. They’re the thoughts of a psychopath, and that psychopath is Jeremy Bamber. Nevill was a respectable hard-working businessman — as if he’d do an insane thing like that ?! And harm his reputation to boot!  That’s what JEREMY would find fun.

As for the mouse, most men laugh when they see women screeching at seeing a mouse. They’re not laughing SADISTICALLY, they find the woman’s reaction funny as all they see themselves is a tiny mouse....

I bet Nevill wouldn’t have laughed had he caught you back heeling his little dog...and then saw you smirking.

You are completely wrong. Colin Caffell told the story about the tricks paid on the reps. [w/s 11/9/85]

[G-Unit]

How can anyone interpret the following as evidence of psychopathy?

If they want to believe something they probably don't need evidence. Or they don't understand what can be classed as bona fide evidence. Wilkes is offering an unattributed quote from an unnamed source, unlike CAL who cites all her sources. He might as well have used that favourite journalistic ploy 'a source said'.

[Caroline]

If they want to believe something they probably don't need evidence. Or they don't understand what can be classed as bona fide evidence. Wilkes is offering an unattributed quote from an unnamed source, unlike CAL who cites all her sources. He might as well have used that favourite journalistic ploy 'a source said'.

And it doesn't suit your particular stance so you ignore it.

[Caroline]

If they want to believe something they probably don't need evidence. Or they don't understand what can be classed as bona fide evidence. Wilkes is offering an unattributed quote from an unnamed source, unlike CAL who cites all her sources. He might as well have used that favourite journalistic ploy 'a source said'.

Also, the psychiatrist in also mentioned by CAL so the reference is good enough for her!

[Vertigo Swirl]

If they want to believe something they probably don't need evidence. Or they don't understand what can be classed as bona fide evidence. Wilkes is offering an unattributed quote from an unnamed source, unlike CAL who cites all her sources. He might as well have used that favourite journalistic ploy 'a source said'.

Are you saying that if the source and psychiatrist were named you’d accept that Bamber was diagnosed as a psychopath?  Or would you then simply look for another reason to reject the assessment?

[G-Unit]

Also, the psychiatrist in also mentioned by CAL so the reference is good enough for her!

Her source was Wilkes and she points out that a real belief in their own innocence isn't a recognised psychopathic tendency, even though the psychiatrist allegedly referred to it as Bamber's chief symptom. That trait isn't mentioned in any of the literature on psychopathy that I have read.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Her source was Wilkes and she points out that a real belief in their own innocence isn't a recognised psychopathic tendency, even though the psychiatrist allegedly referred to it as Bamber's chief symptom. That trait isn't mentioned in any of the literature on psychopathy that I have read.

Narcissism is a feature of psychopathy, agreed? 

“Narcissists lack a mature conscience and are only restrained by the fear of being punished or having their reputations damaged. However, they will do something illegal, immoral, or violent if they believe that they can get away with it without being stopped or punished. Most narcissists truly don't feel responsible for their actions. They have convinced themselves that they are the victims of injustice, discrimination or prejudice”.