Author Topic: Why were they all at the White House that night? Colin Caffell's alibi?  (Read 42225 times)

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Offline Robittybob1


Sheila's illness was Jeremy's convenient cover story from the off. Had she not been ill, he'd probably have had to resort to cutting the brake line on a car they were all in, or blowing the house up. There is no guarantee that any such conversation occurred.
Except that a lady called Barbara Wilson gave a statement to the police telling a different story.  "White House Farm: Who is Barbara Wilson? Why was she important?
WHITE HOUSE FARM is the new true-crime series on ITV. In the latest episode, a woman named Barbara Wilson spoke to police about the Bamber family and life on White House Farm. Who was she and why was she important to the case?" https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1232846/White-House-Farm-who-is-Barbara-Wilson-secretary-Jeremy-Bamber-case

"Barbara Wilson was the secretary of the late Nevill Bamber from 1979 until his death in August 1985."

"Barbara revealed tension had increased on the farm and said Nevill had told her he could foresee a “shooting accident.”"  Does that mean the shooting could be the work of Nevill rather than Jeremy????
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Offline Caroline

Except that a lady called Barbara Wilson gave a statement to the police telling a different story.  "White House Farm: Who is Barbara Wilson? Why was she important?
WHITE HOUSE FARM is the new true-crime series on ITV. In the latest episode, a woman named Barbara Wilson spoke to police about the Bamber family and life on White House Farm. Who was she and why was she important to the case?" https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1232846/White-House-Farm-who-is-Barbara-Wilson-secretary-Jeremy-Bamber-case

"Barbara Wilson was the secretary of the late Nevill Bamber from 1979 until his death in August 1985."

What different story did she tell - please enlighten?

Offline Robittybob1

What different story did she tell - please enlighten?
WHITE HOUSE FARM is the new true-crime series on ITV. In the latest episode, a woman named Barbara Wilson spoke to police about the Bamber family and life on White House Farm. Who was she and why was she important to the case?" https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1232846/White-House-Farm-who-is-Barbara-Wilson-secretary-Jeremy-Bamber-case

"Barbara Wilson was the secretary of the late Nevill Bamber from 1979 until his death in August 1985."

"Barbara revealed tension had increased on the farm and said Nevill had told her he could foresee a “shooting accident.”"  Does that mean the shooting could be the work of Nevill rather than Jeremy????
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Offline Myster

He could always join and read it himself?
He?  Mike the Barnsley burglar will only tell him/her to f..k off.  Sensible discussions, my ar$e...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10269.msg479412/topicseen.html#msg479412
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Except that a lady called Barbara Wilson gave a statement to the police telling a different story.  "White House Farm: Who is Barbara Wilson? Why was she important?
WHITE HOUSE FARM is the new true-crime series on ITV. In the latest episode, a woman named Barbara Wilson spoke to police about the Bamber family and life on White House Farm. Who was she and why was she important to the case?" https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1232846/White-House-Farm-who-is-Barbara-Wilson-secretary-Jeremy-Bamber-case

"Barbara Wilson was the secretary of the late Nevill Bamber from 1979 until his death in August 1985."

"Barbara revealed tension had increased on the farm and said Nevill had told her he could foresee a “shooting accident.”"  Does that mean the shooting could be the work of Nevill rather than Jeremy????
No!  Babs Wilson... https://youtu.be/bcTvqLk0MWU?t=1459
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Caroline

He?  Mike the Barnsley burglar will only tell him/her to f..k off.  Sensible discussions, my ar$e...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10269.msg479412/topicseen.html#msg479412

Save me doing it  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline Robittybob1

According to this report the police had doctored Colin Caffell's statement.

"Along with Jeremy’s statement, the detectives also questioned Colin Caffell. It’s not surprising that Sheila’s ex-husband should not wish to believe Sheila was capable of murdering her own offspring, and his doubts merely fanned the flames of Stan’s prejudice. Whatever was said between Stan and Colin, Essex police tried to hide the original hand-written statement of Colin Caffell and later replaced it with an altered, typed version. The police also failed to disclose the fact that Colin had complained in respect to this discrepancy, and that Essex police had failed to correct it. In brief, the police turned Colin’s statement from ‘I’d had a rough deal (from the Bamber family) all along…’ and put the words in Jeremy’s mouth instead. Colin complained to Stan Jones about the mistake, who told him: ‘It’s only a typing error… don’t worry about it.’ Colin did worry about it and wrote a letter of complaint to DS Ainsley: ‘When I asked Stan Jones about it again last week he said: ‘leave it, whatever you do don’t say anything about it in the witness box; it’ll cause all sorts of trouble if you do…’ In 2002, Colin agreed that the error may have merely been a ‘clerical mistake.’) Nothing Colin Caffell had to say eased Stan’s suspicions that Jeremy might be involved."

http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/innocent-man-part-4-shawtesko.html
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Offline APRIL

According to this report the police had doctored Colin Caffell's statement.

"Along with Jeremy’s statement, the detectives also questioned Colin Caffell. It’s not surprising that Sheila’s ex-husband should not wish to believe Sheila was capable of murdering her own offspring, and his doubts merely fanned the flames of Stan’s prejudice. Whatever was said between Stan and Colin, Essex police tried to hide the original hand-written statement of Colin Caffell and later replaced it with an altered, typed version. The police also failed to disclose the fact that Colin had complained in respect to this discrepancy, and that Essex police had failed to correct it. In brief, the police turned Colin’s statement from ‘I’d had a rough deal (from the Bamber family) all along…’ and put the words in Jeremy’s mouth instead. Colin complained to Stan Jones about the mistake, who told him: ‘It’s only a typing error… don’t worry about it.’ Colin did worry about it and wrote a letter of complaint to DS Ainsley: ‘When I asked Stan Jones about it again last week he said: ‘leave it, whatever you do don’t say anything about it in the witness box; it’ll cause all sorts of trouble if you do…’ In 2002, Colin agreed that the error may have merely been a ‘clerical mistake.’) Nothing Colin Caffell had to say eased Stan’s suspicions that Jeremy might be involved."

http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/innocent-man-part-4-shawtesko.html


Mmmm. This particular author has gone to great lengths to claim that WS's are never what the witness has said because they're not in the witness's handwriting. He omits to say that some witness's are illiterate and that most handwriting, unless in capitals, is very difficult to decipher. I appreciate that there would be problems if the words read back to them were not what they'd written/dictated, but such wasn't a problem in the Bamber case.

Offline Robittybob1


Mmmm. This particular author has gone to great lengths to claim that WS's are never what the witness has said because they're not in the witness's handwriting. He omits to say that some witness's are illiterate and that most handwriting, unless in capitals, is very difficult to decipher. I appreciate that there would be problems if the words read back to them were not what they'd written/dictated, but such wasn't a problem in the Bamber case.
You seem to have a different understanding to mine.    I thought Colin was complaining his typed statement didn't say what was in his handwritten statement.  [sorry missed the word "didn't".]
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Offline G-Unit

No!  Babs Wilson... https://youtu.be/bcTvqLk0MWU?t=1459

It seems Nevill Bamber was accustomed to holding shoots at WHF over the years, but not recently. I wonder if that was connected to his fears of a shooting accident? Although I don't think Jeremy took part in those shoots.
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Offline Caroline

It seems Nevill Bamber was accustomed to holding shoots at WHF over the years, but not recently. I wonder if that was connected to his fears of a shooting accident? Although I don't think Jeremy took part in those shoots.

Cite?

Offline G-Unit

Cite?

Cites are needed when stating that something is a fact. 'I think' means I'm not sure. Perhaps you know the answer?
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Offline APRIL

You seem to have a different understanding to mine.    I thought Colin was complaining his typed statement didn't say what was in his handwritten statement.  [sorry missed the word "didn't".]


The point I was trying to make was that the raison d'etre of the author is confirming that police always change witness statements by rewriting them in their own words.

Offline Caroline

Cites are needed when stating that something is a fact. 'I think' means I'm not sure. Perhaps you know the answer?

Why would you 'think' he didn't?

Offline APRIL

Cites are needed when stating that something is a fact. 'I think' means I'm not sure. Perhaps you know the answer?


What makes you "think" he didn't?