Why were they all at the White House that night? Colin Caffell's alibi?

[Caroline]

Pike was in the phone business, he would know which phones were bought and which were rented. People here are just second guessing. The push button phone was usually in the kitchen and the dial usually in the bedroom, so why all of a sudden would the upstairs phone become the downstairs phone when the downstairs phone was in perfect working order?

[Myster]

Pike was in the phone business, he would know which phones were bought and which were rented. People here are just second guessing. The push button phone was usually in the kitchen and the dial usually in the bedroom, so why all of a sudden would the upstairs phone become the downstairs phone when the downstairs phone was in perfect working order?

Which company made the Envoy?  I've looked all over for the manufacturer, but couldn't see it listed anywhere as a GPO/BT product.  So if made and sold by some unheard-of company, no wonder Pike in his w/s distinguished between it and the more common GPO/BT Statesman push-button phone.

[Robittybob1]

The point I was trying to make was that the raison d'etre of the author is confirming that police always change witness statements by rewriting them in their own words.

Was that the point you were trying to make?

[APRIL]

Was that the point you were trying to make?

Yes. The claims in the quote didn't sound right. Then I saw where it had come from. I think you'll find that it's largely been discredited.

[Robittybob1]

Yes. The claims in the quote didn't sound right. Then I saw where it had come from. I think you'll find that it's largely been discredited.

OK so it is no longer a matter of just Colin Caffell making a complaint but some argument about the author of this entire manuscript, that up to this moment I have thoroughly enjoyed reading for its enlightening background to the whole Jeremy Bamber affair.

The book is David Shaw's Innocent Man and it is covered as a blog and this is chapter 10 http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/innocent-man-part-10.html
Hit the links at the bottom of the page to go back to an earlier chapter. 

[mrswah]

Yes. The claims in the quote didn't sound right. Then I saw where it had come from. I think you'll find that it's largely been discredited.

Discredited by whom?

[Brietta]

Discredited by whom?

Anyone can blog about whatever they wish and put their own spin on it.  I hardly think Sheila Caffell is in any position to instruct a solicitor to start a libel action on her behalf and why would anyone else so libelled give the oxygen of publicity or the time of day to internet lies?

[APRIL]

OK so it is no longer a matter of just Colin Caffell making a complaint but some argument about the author of this entire manuscript, that up to this moment I have thoroughly enjoyed reading for its enlightening background to the whole Jeremy Bamber affair.

The book is David Shaw's Innocent Man and it is covered as a blog and this is chapter 10 http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/innocent-man-part-10.html
Hit the links at the bottom of the page to go back to an earlier chapter.

It needs no introduction to me. It's been doing the rounds for years.

[G-Unit]

You seem to have a different understanding to mine.    I thought Colin was complaining his typed statement didn't say what was in his handwritten statement.  [sorry missed the word "didn't".]

The police wrote down what the witnesses said and the witness signed it. Colin's point was that his statement was then typed up and the typed version contained things he hadn't said. Not only that, but he learned of it because he read it in the newspapers, making him think the police had leaked to them. The police seem to have suggested the leaks came from the typing pool, rather than from officers.
[Rainbows End Kindle ed p943/4]

[Caroline]

The police wrote down what the witnesses said and the witness signed it. Colin's point was that his statement was then typed up and the typed version contained things he hadn't said. Not only that, but he learned of it because he read it in the newspapers, making him think the police had leaked to them. The police seem to have suggested the leaks came from the typing pool, rather than from officers.
[Rainbows End Kindle ed p943/4]

It contained one thing he hadn't said.

[Robittybob1]

The police wrote down what the witnesses said and the witness signed it. Colin's point was that his statement was then typed up and the typed version contained things he hadn't said. Not only that, but he learned of it because he read it in the newspapers, making him think the police had leaked to them. The police seem to have suggested the leaks came from the typing pool, rather than from officers.
[Rainbows End Kindle ed p943/4]

Thanks for that.  But what they did in my own case was that the police actually destroyed the handwritten original version that had my signature on it and replaced it with notes.  Was Colin ever able to prove he had signed an original?

[Robittybob1]

It contained one thing he hadn't said.

Well in an honest world a statement should only say the thing the witness actually said. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Which company made the Envoy?  I've looked all over for the manufacturer, but couldn't see it listed anywhere as a GPO/BT product.  So if made and sold by some unheard-of company, no wonder Pike in his w/s distinguished between it and the more common GPO/BT Statesman push-button phone.

I can't find anything about an Envoy telephone anywhere?! 

[Robittybob1]

I can't find anything about an Envoy telephone anywhere?!

Some of these posts are obviously on the wrong thread.  They need to be transferred to the one discussing the telephones.