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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14775 on: December 26, 2021, 09:53:25 PM »
Look at the Greek helicopter pilot who police say is guilty and has confessed.. Any complaints..
If he retracts his confession can he get a fair trial. It depends on the evidence.

Did the prosecutor accuse Babis Anagnostopoulos in the media of murder before he was charged?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14776 on: December 26, 2021, 09:56:10 PM »
Did the prosecutor accuse Babis Anagnostopoulos in the media of murder before he was charged?

Why should that make a difference ..even if charged he has the right to the POI
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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14777 on: December 26, 2021, 10:10:36 PM »
Why should that make a difference ..even if charged he has the right to the POI

You don’t think that a prosecutor accusing a legally innocent man ( of this crime) of murder before one witness has been heard would prejudice any future trial? Interesting.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14778 on: December 26, 2021, 10:11:13 PM »
Grime didn't court publicity or accuse anyone publicly, the two aren't comparable. Wolters is speculating about something that he can't prove.

Grime successfully used the dog video to solicit work for his new commercial venture - I think that might have been a little presumptive of him.

Actually getting that job backfired on him - not financially - but as far as professional reputation was concerned.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14779 on: December 26, 2021, 10:16:08 PM »
You don’t think that a prosecutor accusing a legally innocent man ( of this crime) of murder before one witness has been heard would prejudice any future trial? Interesting.

It would depend on what evidence Wolters has.  CB has the right to a fair trial.. Guaranteed by the ECHR.
I will be the first to complain if he doesn't get one.

You seem to think despite what evidence is presented his trial wint be fair.. I disagree

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14780 on: December 26, 2021, 10:22:47 PM »
That might be the name of the game.
Not enough evidence to convict, but  putting his name into the public domain ensures a fair trial cannot take place.
Everyone then 'believes' he's guilty but got off on a technicality.

Case solved.
OG off the hook and can close down to cold case that goes nowhere.
McCann can continue to claims she's still alive and hang on to the loot - until she's old enough to draw a pension no doubt.
Germans can claim they got their man  and will no doubt  get him for something else .

Just an idea
Just a load of horseshit.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14781 on: December 26, 2021, 10:24:18 PM »
So no-one will ever know for sure, but the whole question can go away.
The whole question could have “gone away” when the case was shelved in 2008.  Jesus H what conspiracy nonsense you lot subscribe to.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14782 on: December 26, 2021, 10:24:50 PM »
Grime successfully used the dog video to solicit work for his new commercial venture - I think that might have been a little presumptive of him.

Actually getting that job backfired on him - not financially - but as far as professional reputation was concerned.

I think it's reasonable to say that Grimes White paper could be used to support any application for work for his companies.  It's not a scientific research paper and has not been peer reviewed.  It's a statement of his own ideas and abilities

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14783 on: December 26, 2021, 11:48:13 PM »
Grime successfully used the dog video to solicit work for his new commercial venture - I think that might have been a little presumptive of him.

Actually getting that job backfired on him - not financially - but as far as professional reputation was concerned.

According to rumour, but did he show the video before or after he was hired? I think his reputation has remained intact despite efforts by some to blacken it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14784 on: December 27, 2021, 01:47:07 AM »
According to rumour, but did he show the video before or after he was hired? I think his reputation has remained intact despite efforts by some to blacken it.

An official Government Review was conducted regarding the debacle which occurred at Haute de la Garenne.

Report to the Minister and Accounting
Officer, Home Affairs Department,
States of Jersey
Operation Rectangle
Review of the Efficient and Effective
Use of Resources
May 2010

https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20Operation%20Rectangle%20review%20of%20the%20efficient%20and%20effective%20use%20of%20resources%20201005%20BDO%20Alto.pdf


Once again your inimitable posting style containing the innuendo of slurs attached to facts which don't fit the narrative you have invented for yourself are bandied about.

Nobody attempted to "blacken" Grime's name.
  • As part of the Review we have met with and interviewed the key personnel involved in the management of the investigation, within both SOJP and Home Affairs as well as the two principal external consultants - Mr Grime and LGC, both of whom we discuss in some detail in this Report.


The information contained in the above link won't be to your liking - with what pejorative label are you going to assign to it - bearing in mind it is all a matter of record.! 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14785 on: December 27, 2021, 07:30:07 AM »
An official Government Review was conducted regarding the debacle which occurred at Haute de la Garenne.

Report to the Minister and Accounting
Officer, Home Affairs Department,
States of Jersey
Operation Rectangle
Review of the Efficient and Effective
Use of Resources
May 2010

https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20Operation%20Rectangle%20review%20of%20the%20efficient%20and%20effective%20use%20of%20resources%20201005%20BDO%20Alto.pdf


Once again your inimitable posting style containing the innuendo of slurs attached to facts which don't fit the narrative you have invented for yourself are bandied about.

Nobody attempted to "blacken" Grime's name.
  • As part of the Review we have met with and interviewed the key personnel involved in the management of the investigation, within both SOJP and Home Affairs as well as the two principal external consultants - Mr Grime and LGC, both of whom we discuss in some detail in this Report.


The information contained in the above link won't be to your liking - with what pejorative label are you going to assign to it - bearing in mind it is all a matter of record.!

Are you saying that review blackened Grime's character? I don't think it did.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14786 on: December 27, 2021, 09:40:59 AM »
Are you saying that review blackened Grime's character? I don't think it did.

The review was highly critical of Grime and his dog. Do you think hr might use it in his sales pitch fir his next job

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14787 on: December 27, 2021, 10:35:39 AM »
Are you saying that review blackened Grime's character? I don't think it did.

You are throwing slurs around willy-nilly with unsubstantiated accusations of "blackening" Grime's name.

I am giving you the fact of the matter and providing supporting evidence.

I wish you would up your game and desist from using innuendo to slur others as the simplest way of reinforcing your perennial bias.

So it has been and so it always was and so it will continue until the last sceptic draws the last breath - quite an extraordinary achievement when one considers the title of this thread and the investigations taking place centring on this one man crime wave.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14788 on: December 27, 2021, 11:32:27 AM »
You are throwing slurs around willy-nilly with unsubstantiated accusations of "blackening" Grime's name.

I am giving you the fact of the matter and providing supporting evidence.

I wish you would up your game and desist from using innuendo to slur others as the simplest way of reinforcing your perennial bias.

So it has been and so it always was and so it will continue until the last sceptic draws the last breath - quite an extraordinary achievement when one considers the title of this thread and the investigations taking place centring on this one man crime wave.

I just wish you would stop the aggressive posts.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14789 on: December 27, 2021, 11:42:00 AM »
I just wish you would stop the aggressive posts.

You may find my posts "aggressive" ~ perhaps that may be in response to those of yours I judge to be insidious 🤡
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....