“A Laughable Story”

[Brietta]

However, before this, just a few days after the NotW story I did receive a call from a senior officer in the Met whom I knew quite well.  This officer told me I would do better to avoid the McCann investigation if it did happen, because "You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".

That is the totality of the advice I received. It was made clear that this was an ‘unofficial’ call and that it was made in my interest – so that I might not end up taking on a task which would ultimately frustrate me.  As such I never pressed the caller for more information, nor will I ever be in a position to disclose who the officer was.

I was familiar enough with the reporting of the McCann case in the media to understand that there was a widespread reluctance to talk of any scenario which did not involve an abduction and in which no blame or complicity was to be attributed to the parents and their friends.  This struck me as odd but, in those days, quite frankly I was busy enough with he investigations I was involved in without undertaking any 'off the books' look at what had gone on in Praia de Luz.  I had assumed that there was good reason for this; that those who had been involved had satisfied themselves that was the case



"You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".

That is the totality of the advice I received.



so the totality of the advice he received was....
"You wouldn't be happy leading an investigation where you were told what you could look at and what you could not".


Not a mention of the McCanns

http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

Nor any mention at all of the lead investigating authority, Portugal. who did indeed have the power to decide what could and what could not  not be looked at.
A power which I believe they exercised occasionally ... Portugal not being a vassal state but a proud free country which would not be dictated to by anyone.

Logically, I think it far more likely that was the situation being referred to than any addition to the myths which it became.

[Miss Taken Identity]

The first investigation  didn't understand  the evidence... That's been established..
The Germans certainly  don't believe  the parents are involved  and neither do SY... However she left the apartment she was abducted

'However she left the apartment she was abducted'

I think this is  a salient point. They are not committing themselves to thinking  MBM being abducted/remove dead or alive from her bed. via brokn shutters et el It does cover the theory of walked and wandered and being killed in the apartment and removed/abducted.

[G-Unit]

'However she left the apartment she was abducted'

I think this is  a salient point. They are not committing themselves to thinking  MBM being abducted/remove dead or alive from her bed. via brokn shutters et el It does cover the theory of walked and wandered and being killed in the apartment and removed/abducted.

OG was set up to help the McCanns, so it wasn't intended to be completely neutral.

[Vertigo Swirl]

OG was set up to help the McCanns, so it wasn't intended to be completely neutral.

Do you have a cite for this?

[Brietta]

OG was set up to help the McCanns, so it wasn't intended to be completely neutral.

Operation Grange was set up to investigate what happened to Madeleine McCann ... they are still looking for her.

[G-Unit]

Operation Grange was set up to investigate what happened to Madeleine McCann ... they are still looking for her.

It was set up to investigate the abduction as if it occurred in the UK. It began with two assumptions; that there had been an abduction and that the PJ had ruled out the McCanns. One of those assumptions was shown to be incorrect by the Supreme Court in Portugal.

[Mr Gray]

It was set up to investigate the abduction as if it occurred in the UK. It began with two assumptions; that there had been an abduction and that the PJ had ruled out the McCanns. One of those assumptions was shown to be incorrect by the Supreme Court in Portugal.

The SC did not say the McCanns had not been ruled out... I thought you understood that

[Vertigo Swirl]

It was set up to investigate the abduction as if it occurred in the UK. It began with two assumptions; that there had been an abduction and that the PJ had ruled out the McCanns. One of those assumptions was shown to be incorrect by the Supreme Court in Portugal.

Why do you constantly ignore requests for cites?  I thought if you made a statement of fact thst you needed to supply a cite if asked for one?  Does that forum rule not apply to you?

[Mr Gray]

It was set up to investigate the abduction as if it occurred in the UK. It began with two assumptions; that there had been an abduction and that the PJ had ruled out the McCanns. One of those assumptions was shown to be incorrect by the Supreme Court in Portugal.

No assumtions at all...grange was set up to investigate an abduction after a review had been carried out...thats not an assumption its  aconclusion....SY looked at all the evidence against the parents...almost certainly interviewed thema and decided they were not involved. This doesnt mean that if new evidence came to light during the investigation the direction could not look at the parents.


as for not being ruled out...I did think you understood that..you obviously dont..the SC never said teh McCannns hadnt been ruled out ..fact

[kizzy]

No assumtions at all...grange was set up to investigate an abduction after a review had been carried out...thats not an assumption its  aconclusion....SY looked at all the evidence against the parents...almost certainly interviewed thema and decided they were not involved. This doesnt mean that if new evidence came to light during the investigation the direction could not look at the parents.


as for not being ruled out...I did think you understood that..you obviously dont..the SC never said teh McCannns hadnt been ruled out ..fact

No assumtions at all...grange was set up to investigate an abduction

Oh yes there was.

 They assumed Maddie had been abducted then - even though no evidence of abduction.

Grange should have been set up to look at what had happened to a missing child.

[Mr Gray]

No assumtions at all...grange was set up to investigate an abduction

Oh yes there was.

 They assumed Maddie had been abducted then - even though no evidence of abduction.

Grange should have been set up to look at what had happened to a missing child.

To investigate an abduction based on the findings of the review...that is not an assumption. no where does it say it is limited to the remit. Are you suggesting if evidence pointed to woke and wandered Grange would ignore it...that's barmy.

The fact is imo...they are investigating an abduction ...as are the Germans...because thats where the evidence points to

[kizzy]

To investigate an abduction based on the findings of the review...that is not an assumption. no where does it say it is limited to the remit. Are you suggesting if evidence pointed to woke and wandered Grange would ignore it...that's barmy.

The fact is imo...they are investigating an abduction ...as are the Germans...because thats where the evidence points to

.they are investigating an abduction

So being partial then - instead of looking at the bigger picture.

When infact the mccs were not cleared of being involved - as we know.

[Mr Gray]

.they are investigating an abduction

So being partial then - instead of looking at the bigger picture.

When infact the mccs were not cleared of being involved - as we know.

The SC did not say the McCanns havent been cleared...as far as Sy and the Germans..the McCanns are not being investigated ..CB is.

I would say SY have looked at everything...as they have confirmed...and sensibly decided the McCanns are not involved

[carlymichelle]

.they are investigating an abduction

So being partial then - instead of looking at the bigger picture.

When infact the mccs were not cleared of being involved - as we know.

i  think some people cling to the abduction  theory  so they dont have to imagine a  parent hurting their  child it happens though  doesnt it  i read about parents doing all sorts of things to children  sadly 

[kizzy]

When gmc checked when he had the proud father moment - he noticed the door wide open.

Yet he did not think to mention it to kmc - yet isn't that what checking is all about making sure everything is safe.

He was also longer than expected kmcc thought he was watching football IIRC. so why didn't he mention the door?