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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1875 on: October 24, 2020, 10:04:55 AM »
...he said the evidence is so strong that maddie is dead and CB murdered her....

Oh how ridiculous...so why doesn't he charge him then what is he waiting for.

if you look at the RUi Pedro case the answers quite obvious.

Do I have to remind you again evidence is not proof

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1876 on: October 24, 2020, 10:16:44 AM »
if you look at the RUi Pedro case the answers quite obvious.

Do I have to remind you again evidence is not proof

It sounds as if he went straight in for the kill ..big mistake as he was expecting more.

Now it seems his non-evidence then is nothing more than he thinks CB did it.

Not really any even circumstantial evidence IMO.e has well over-egged what he has ...he backs down on the interview when asked how strong the evidence is ....

What is quite obvious his silence speaks volumes
 

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1877 on: October 24, 2020, 10:37:29 AM »
if you look at the RUi Pedro case the answers quite obvious.

Do I have to remind you again evidence is not proof

Identifying a child in a photograph shouldn't be done without consulting those who knew the child best imo; the relatives.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1878 on: October 24, 2020, 10:44:50 AM »
he said the strong evidence is not the phone or witness words...he said the evidence is so strong that maddie is dead and CB murdered her....I dont see that as back tracking...I see as moving forward. Could have similar evidence as in the RUI Pedro case

If there indeed is something tangible to tie Brueckner to Madeleine then he would have been arrested and questioned....that is an inalienable fact.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1879 on: October 24, 2020, 11:09:02 AM »
If there indeed is something tangible to tie Brueckner to Madeleine then he would have been arrested and questioned....that is an inalienable fact.

No it isn't

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1880 on: October 24, 2020, 11:09:55 AM »
It sounds as if he went straight in for the kill ..big mistake as he was expecting more.

Now it seems his non-evidence then is nothing more than he thinks CB did it.

Not really any even circumstantial evidence IMO.e has well over-egged what he has ...he backs down on the interview when asked how strong the evidence is ....

What is quite obvious his silence speaks volumes
I think he has proof of abduction..a major step forward

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1881 on: October 24, 2020, 11:10:55 AM »
Identifying a child in a photograph shouldn't be done without consulting those who knew the child best imo; the relatives.

It's the fact that it may have happened that's far more important imo

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1882 on: October 24, 2020, 12:05:33 PM »
I think he has proof of abduction..a major step forward

You ...dont know that though.

just like me saying he hasnt.

The thing is though if he is not charged as I doubt very much he will be. It's back to square one. If only this could be looked at with fresh eyes the leading up to Maddie not being in her bed at last check

1 DP going to 5a to check that all was ok and saw the beautiful scene he described...[close family freind]

2 gmcc visual check proud father moment. sees door moved but doesn't mention it to kmcc.

3 kmcc check door blowing shut curtains blowing but leaves the window open.gmcc wondering where she was

4 not searching but examining shutters and phoning as many as they could to get the abduction story in time for the media news.

A lot more things but IMO it all sound s a bit too convenient even though it took a couple of attempts with statements to get there.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1883 on: October 24, 2020, 12:12:07 PM »
You ...dont know that though.

just like me saying he hasnt.

The thing is though if he is not charged as I doubt very much he will be. It's back to square one. If only this could be looked at with fresh eyes the leading up to Maddie not being in her bed at last check

1 DP going to 5a to check that all was ok and saw the beautiful scene he described...[close family freind]

2 gmcc visual check proud father moment. sees door moved but doesn't mention it to kmcc.

3 kmcc check door blowing shut curtains blowing but leaves the window open.gmcc wondering where she was

4 not searching but examining shutters and phoning as many as they could to get the abduction story in time for the media news.

A lot more things but IMO it all sound s a bit too convenient even though it took a couple of attempts with statements to get there.

It depends what HCW has...if it proves stranger abduction none of that matters and it's certainly not back to square one.
It would prove the parents innocence

Remember his very strong evidence may not be enough to convict CB ...it might be...but it will be very strong evidence...if not proof...of stranger abduction

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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1884 on: October 24, 2020, 12:40:52 PM »
If there indeed is something tangible to tie Brueckner to Madeleine then he would have been arrested and questioned....that is an inalienable fact.

Brueckner is already arrested and is going nowhere anytime soon.  I am sure he will be questioned if or when it suits the Germans to do so.  In the interim I believe many wide ranging investigations concerning criminal cases are being conducted with this man at the core.

They have been investigating this man against the clock for years.  It was only a matter of time until nefarious reasons would cause premature release of his name into the public domain.

The question is why did Goncalo Amaral do that https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/former-portuguese-police-chief-goncalo-amaral-says-madeleine-mccann-suspect-is-in-german-prison/news-story/13992e3c9cc61ef835a2d95a7f5a7025
And why would Goncalo Amaral release "evidence" into the public domain about Brueckner's vehicle with painted cartoons on its side https://zap.aeiou.pt/amaral-arrasa-investigacao-alema-331219
And why would Goncalo Amaral feed false information to the Portuguese public about Brueckner's hairstyle at the time of Madeleine's disappearance in 2007  https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema

Although he was really caught out when the truth of the lie was revealed with the publication of video footage of the Brueckner showing him with a short haircut  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576985/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-kidnap-campervan-weeks-vanished.html

The question really is why is Amaral so intent on preserving Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence while stamping vigorously on McCann human rights for thirteen+ years ... even to defending Brueckner with the deliberate introduction of false evidence (hairstyle) while vigorously traducing Madeleine's parents.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1885 on: October 24, 2020, 01:03:52 PM »
Brueckner is already arrested and is going nowhere anytime soon.  I am sure he will be questioned if or when it suits the Germans to do so.  In the interim I believe many wide ranging investigations concerning criminal cases are being conducted with this man at the core.

They have been investigating this man against the clock for years.  It was only a matter of time until nefarious reasons would cause premature release of his name into the public domain.

The question is why did Goncalo Amaral do that https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/former-portuguese-police-chief-goncalo-amaral-says-madeleine-mccann-suspect-is-in-german-prison/news-story/13992e3c9cc61ef835a2d95a7f5a7025
And why would Goncalo Amaral release "evidence" into the public domain about Brueckner's vehicle with painted cartoons on its side https://zap.aeiou.pt/amaral-arrasa-investigacao-alema-331219
And why would Goncalo Amaral feed false information to the Portuguese public about Brueckner's hairstyle at the time of Madeleine's disappearance in 2007  https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema

Although he was really caught out when the truth of the lie was revealed with the publication of video footage of the Brueckner showing him with a short haircut  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576985/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-kidnap-campervan-weeks-vanished.html

The question really is why is Amaral so intent on preserving Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence while stamping vigorously on McCann human rights for thirteen+ years ... even to defending Brueckner with the deliberate introduction of false evidence (hairstyle) while vigorously traducing Madeleine's parents.

Brueckner cannot be questioned until he's arrested, and there's not enough evidence to arrest him. At the moment he's in prison for drug offences. As to his rape conviction, it isn't clear to me if that decision is final;

"he was sentenced to seven years in prison by the Braunschweig Regional Court for raping a 72-year-old girl in the Algarve in 2005. This penalty is currently being examined by the Federal Court of Justice and is not final."
https://www.fnp.de/deutschland/maddie-mccann-anwalt-christian-b-kritik-medien-vermisst-tot-verdacht-zr-13810982.html

If that conviction were quashed he may not be sitting in jail when and if they decide to arrest him.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1886 on: October 24, 2020, 01:05:33 PM »
Brueckner is already arrested and is going nowhere anytime soon.  I am sure he will be questioned if or when it suits the Germans to do so.  In the interim I believe many wide ranging investigations concerning criminal cases are being conducted with this man at the core.

They have been investigating this man against the clock for years.  It was only a matter of time until nefarious reasons would cause premature release of his name into the public domain.

The question is why did Goncalo Amaral do that https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/former-portuguese-police-chief-goncalo-amaral-says-madeleine-mccann-suspect-is-in-german-prison/news-story/13992e3c9cc61ef835a2d95a7f5a7025
And why would Goncalo Amaral release "evidence" into the public domain about Brueckner's vehicle with painted cartoons on its side https://zap.aeiou.pt/amaral-arrasa-investigacao-alema-331219
And why would Goncalo Amaral feed false information to the Portuguese public about Brueckner's hairstyle at the time of Madeleine's disappearance in 2007  https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema

Although he was really caught out when the truth of the lie was revealed with the publication of video footage of the Brueckner showing him with a short haircut  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576985/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-kidnap-campervan-weeks-vanished.html

The question really is why is Amaral so intent on preserving Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence while stamping vigorously on McCann human rights for thirteen+ years ... even to defending Brueckner with the deliberate introduction of false evidence (hairstyle) while vigorously traducing Madeleine's parents.

Scotland Yard’s attitude to Wolter and his ‘evidence’ tells us everything we need to know. Have you listened to the MS’s podcast yet ?

Amaral is old news I’m afraid and you really do need to move on.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1887 on: October 24, 2020, 01:12:38 PM »
Brueckner cannot be questioned until he's arrested, and there's not enough evidence to arrest him. At the moment he's in prison for drug offences. As to his rape conviction, it isn't clear to me if that decision is final;

"he was sentenced to seven years in prison by the Braunschweig Regional Court for raping a 72-year-old girl in the Algarve in 2005. This penalty is currently being examined by the Federal Court of Justice and is not final."
https://www.fnp.de/deutschland/maddie-mccann-anwalt-christian-b-kritik-medien-vermisst-tot-verdacht-zr-13810982.html

If that conviction were quashed he may not be sitting in jail when and if they decide to arrest him.

I know why Brueckner is in jail and I am quite content that the Germans will handle the situation to best advantage when it suits them to do so.

I did however address other observations about evidence and the introduction of false evidence into this case in my post.

Did you miss them?

Or can I expect you to formulate some kind of answer in the very near future :)
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1888 on: October 24, 2020, 01:13:13 PM »
Brueckner cannot be questioned until he's arrested, and there's not enough evidence to arrest him. At the moment he's in prison for drug offences. As to his rape conviction, it isn't clear to me if that decision is final;

"he was sentenced to seven years in prison by the Braunschweig Regional Court for raping a 72-year-old girl in the Algarve in 2005. This penalty is currently being examined by the Federal Court of Justice and is not final."
https://www.fnp.de/deutschland/maddie-mccann-anwalt-christian-b-kritik-medien-vermisst-tot-verdacht-zr-13810982.html

If that conviction were quashed he may not be sitting in jail when and if they decide to arrest him.

The Germans will find something to hang on to him.  The Pornography they found could well be enough.

Offline jassi

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #1889 on: October 24, 2020, 01:18:24 PM »
The Germans will find something to hang on to him. The Pornography they found could well be enough.

Has he not already served time for that, as it was found several years ago ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future