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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2250 on: October 30, 2020, 11:23:23 AM »
In my opinion his comment had some truth in it.
Imo he hadn't got a clue

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2251 on: October 30, 2020, 11:24:58 AM »
GP statement -  www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PH-HU.htm

Yet gunit claimed the PJ were denied information

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2252 on: October 30, 2020, 11:39:33 AM »
Especially if some comments are On Ignore.  I will never be able to understand this.  How can you have a discussion and sift facts if you can't see what some people are saying?
I think the important thing for some is to get their message out there and nothing else interests them.  I read concerning another issue " ... their rhetoric, like the mindset that informs it ..." and I think it is a bit like that for some.

They made up their minds long ago which is why we have recurring discussions on Calpol ~ forensics ~ and dogs.

Thank goodness proper investigators don't operate like that.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2253 on: October 30, 2020, 12:12:14 PM »
That amongst a lot of other issues.

If memory serves me well he was furiously denouncing a communication which had been forwarded I would imagine via the proper channels from Prince Charles's office.

An email concerning the investigation had been received suggesting that a disgruntled former Ocean Club employee had kidnapped Madeleine in revenge for being sacked.
So instead of doing what would be the norm of passing that information to an underling to be looked into Amaral was enraged and mouthed off about it to a journalist over a late night dinner.

Very unprofessional of him to say the least.  Nobody put a foot wrong in this episode with the exception of Amaral.
  • the Prince's office passed on information received to the appropriate investigative authorities concerning a crime
  • instead of investigating it Amaral gossiped negatively and I believe furiously about it to a journalist
  • the journalist did what journalists do and wrote it up
  • Amaral's bosses sacked him and in my opinion that was just a reaction to the last straw in one embarrassment after another in a botched investigation
I wonder if the information sent from Britain was ever properly investigated at the time or did it take until the reopening of Madeleine's case by the Portuguese for it to be looked at?

Apparently the Met were on it, but as we know they don't move all that quickly.

Royal aides have passed the email on to Scotland Yard, which is now trying to trace the author.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/6oct7/NEWS_AU_01_10_2007.htm

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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2254 on: October 30, 2020, 12:14:31 PM »
Yet gunit claimed the PJ were denied information

Perhaps they just didn't like the information they received.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2255 on: October 30, 2020, 12:20:06 PM »
Apparently the Met were on it, but as we know they don't move all that quickly.

Royal aides have passed the email on to Scotland Yard, which is now trying to trace the author.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/6oct7/NEWS_AU_01_10_2007.htm

It was a Portuguese investigation so I think to say "the Met were on it" is wide of the mark.  The Met passed the information to the appropriate investigative authority in whose jurisdiction it was.  The Met had no jurisdiction.

In my opinion the reception it was given by Amaral verges on the unbalanced and his sacking as a result was long overdue.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2256 on: October 30, 2020, 12:54:44 PM »
Yet gunit claimed the PJ were denied information

Medical records, not an interview with a GP at the request of the suspects.

Group 6 (Professionals who can confirm that there was no abnormality in the way Kate and Gerry treated their children):
Dr. Phil Hussey, with address at ...> (Leics) (0,116,260 ####)
Dr Ian Schofield, with address at ...> (Mountsorrel) (0,116,230 ####)
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS-WANTED.htm
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #2257 on: October 30, 2020, 01:01:12 PM »
It was a Portuguese investigation so I think to say "the Met were on it" is wide of the mark.  The Met passed the information to the appropriate investigative authority in whose jurisdiction it was.  The Met had no jurisdiction.

In my opinion the reception it was given by Amaral verges on the unbalanced and his sacking as a result was long overdue.

It's clear from the PJ files that UK police investigated matters on their own initiative without being requested to do so by the appropriate authorities.

At the time this email was recieved the appropriate authorities were not chasing vague leads suggesting abduction.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2258 on: October 30, 2020, 01:34:01 PM »
Medical records, not an interview with a GP at the request of the suspects.

Group 6 (Professionals who can confirm that there was no abnormality in the way Kate and Gerry treated their children):
Dr. Phil Hussey, with address at ...> (Leics) (0,116,260 ####)
Dr Ian Schofield, with address at ...> (Mountsorrel) (0,116,230 ####)
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS-WANTED.htm

Perhaps the Portuguese didn't understand that they cannot simply ask a doctor to supply complete medical records...and that at the initial stage the patients consent is required. Perhaps you think the UK should ignore all their rules and laws at the request of the Portuguese
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2259 on: October 30, 2020, 01:40:00 PM »
It's clear from the PJ files that UK police investigated matters on their own initiative without being requested to do so by the appropriate authorities.

At the time this email was recieved the appropriate authorities were not chasing vague leads suggesting abduction.

The Portuguese should have been investigating an abduction as it was a reasonable possibility..it seem the UK police simply had a better understanding of the evidence

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2260 on: October 30, 2020, 02:18:30 PM »
The Portuguese should have been investigating an abduction as it was a reasonable possibility..it seem the UK police simply had a better understanding of the evidence

I didn't say the PJ weren't investigating an abduction, I said they weren't investigating vague leads, and if ever I saw a vague lead that was it.

Whoever wrote it could have contacted the PJ, Leicestershire Police, Crimestoppers, Metodo 3 or the Find Madeleine website. For some reason the informant ignored all those options and decided to send an anonymous email to Prince Charles' Website.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #2261 on: October 30, 2020, 02:23:36 PM »
It's clear from the PJ files that UK police investigated matters on their own initiative without being requested to do so by the appropriate authorities.

At the time this email was recieved the appropriate authorities were not chasing vague leads suggesting abduction.

Indeed.  Amaral was investigating Kate and Gerry McCann.  Having totally given up on Madeleine and whatever had happened to her.  Which is why he was so incensed when information arrived with allegations of a kidnap.

Later competent investigation proved beyond a doubt that his notions were totally invalid and the reopening of the Policia Judiciaria investigation into madeleine's case in 2013 which centred on her abduction proves that things had progressed way beyond his botched betrayal of Madeleine back in the dark days of 2007.

Did I forget to mention that everything Amaral's investigation had thought was evidence which was used to make the McCanns arguidos was proved otherwise by the Policia Judiciaria and gives a huge clue as to why he is pushing the notion of Brueckner as a 'scapegoat'.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2262 on: October 30, 2020, 02:42:29 PM »
Indeed.  Amaral was investigating Kate and Gerry McCann.  Having totally given up on Madeleine and whatever had happened to her.  Which is why he was so incensed when information arrived with allegations of a kidnap.

Later competent investigation proved beyond a doubt that his notions were totally invalid and the reopening of the Policia Judiciaria investigation into madeleine's case in 2013 which centred on her abduction proves that things had progressed way beyond his botched betrayal of Madeleine back in the dark days of 2007.

Did I forget to mention that everything Amaral's investigation had thought was evidence which was used to make the McCanns arguidos was proved otherwise by the Policia Judiciaria and gives a huge clue as to why he is pushing the notion of Brueckner as a 'scapegoat'.



Amaral's investigation had thought was evidence which was used to make the McCanns arguidos was proved otherwise by the Policia Judiciaria



If that was the case ....why didn't the mccs sue the PJ.

They did everyone else

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2263 on: October 30, 2020, 02:48:33 PM »


Amaral's investigation had thought was evidence which was used to make the McCanns arguidos was proved otherwise by the Policia Judiciaria



If that was the case ....why didn't the mccs sue the PJ.

They did everyone else

Actually they didn't.  So your opinion that they did is rather off the mark.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2264 on: October 30, 2020, 03:03:00 PM »


Amaral's investigation had thought was evidence which was used to make the McCanns arguidos was proved otherwise by the Policia Judiciaria



If that was the case ....why didn't the mccs sue the PJ.

They did everyone else
Sue them for what...you can't sue someone for being stupid