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Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2016, 04:03:53 PM »
@Pegasus.  That is your prerogative.  To make that assumption is your right but it would mean you are ignoring Tim Craig-Harvey saying the following:

''So we have got photographic evidence.'
'Now that we have a photograph'
'We had a device in the room to pick up what she was saying.'
'She was then presented of a photograph of this guy George in the market [while a facial photograph is shown during the Channel Five documentary McCanns And The Conman), at which point she broke down and said, "That is the guy I saw carrying the child."'
'Jane Tanner having said "This is the guy that I saw", it may just have been that she so wanted to help that she fooled herself."

Again -- if Miss Tanner disagrees with anything in Tim Craig Harvey's account, she can contact Channel Five.  And if she believes that I have misrepresented her identification, she can contact me too.  Finally, Pegasus, in case you are feeling restless about this, you are free to contact Tom Craig-Harvey so you can turn your assumption into something more concrete.

For any one wishing to decide for themselves, the documentary The McCanns And The Conman can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vphKz-Xjbn0
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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline Brietta

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2016, 06:35:43 PM »
Quote from: Gadfly1.3 on April 09, 2016, 04:03:53 PM
@Pegasus.  That is your prerogative.  To make that assumption is your right but it would mean you are ignoring Tim Craig-Harvey saying the following:

''So we have got photographic evidence.'
'Now that we have a photograph'
'We had a device in the room to pick up what she was saying.'
'She was then presented of a photograph of this guy George in the market [while a facial photograph is shown during the Channel Five documentary McCanns And The Conman), at which point she broke down and said, "That is the guy I saw carrying the child."'
'Jane Tanner having said "This is the guy that I saw", it may just have been that she so wanted to help that she fooled herself."

Again -- if Miss Tanner disagrees with anything in Tim Craig Harvey's account, she can contact Channel Five.  And if she believes that I have misrepresented her identification, she can contact me too.  Finally, Pegasus, in case you are feeling restless about this, you are free to contact Tom Craig-Harvey so you can turn your assumption into something more concrete.

For any one wishing to decide for themselves, the documentary The McCanns And The Conman can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vphKz-Xjbn0

I have asked you twice for a cite for Jane Tanner's alleged statement ... I don't think someone else saying the words you allege she says cuts the mustard ... please provide a cite for your allegation or refrain from repetition.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2016, 08:39:33 PM »
@Gadfly hopefully we can agree to differ on whether or not JT actually says in the recording that she recognised the facial features of marketman. IMO it was simply the hairstyle/length/colour and the general build.

On your main point, the location of the chat, I agree with you that it was on the west side of the street, fairly close to the lounge window. In the Cutting Edge documentary, I find witness JT completely convincing and honest when she states where the chat was located.

IMO the crucial difference between the two locations is this: at the true location, the conversation was easily audible inside the apartment (the sound of the voices transmitting through the lounge window above). At the other location, a hypothetical conversation would be inaudible inside the apartment.
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Offline Gadfly1.3

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2016, 05:22:57 PM »
Deny. Deny. Deny. It's a simple but effective strategy Pegasus. The problem is that the denials often require explanations that lead to clear contradictions in an author's (or defendant's) logic and arguments.  The evidence on this thread is so overwhelming and well cited that it is unspinnable.  Brietta's latest point gave me a big smile as I could see it coming. But you'll be met with more of the same: deny, deny, and deny.

Thank God for the fact that Western justice systems aren't as succeptible to such a strategy as internet forums/ public opinion are.  Portuguese juries even have judges on them. :)

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On 12 May 2011 the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the MPS's jurisdiction.  The Portuguese authorities retain the lead.

Offline jassi

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2016, 05:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Gadfly1.3 on April 12, 2016, 05:22:57 PM
Deny. Deny. Deny. It's a simple but effective strategy Pegasus. The problem is that the denials often require explanations that lead to clear contradictions in an author's (or defendant's) logic and arguments.  The evidence on this thread is so overwhelming and well cited that it is unspinnable.  Brietta's latest point gave me a big smile as I could see it coming. But you'll be met with more of the same: deny, deny, and deny.

Thank God for the fact that Western justice systems aren't as succeptible to such a strategy as internet forums/ public opinion are.  Portuguese juries even have judges on them. :)

Indeed. Everything,no matter how trivial has to be contested  and argued to the Nth degree- it's like a knee-jerk reaction.
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Offline John

Re: Jane Tanner's interview with The Sun on 20 November 2007
« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2016, 02:30:25 PM »
Members please note that the Gerry and Jez chat discussion has been moved.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1249.msg320651#msg320651
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.
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