Channel Five documentary - "Murder in a Small Town"

[interested]

Sandra Lean stated,

‘Luke would claim that he instructed the dog, which had had some training as a tracker dog to "Seek Jodi, Find Jodi," after asking family members if they had anything of Jodi‟s from which the dog could get a scent.

When did this happen and which family member did Mitchell ask for something of Jodi’s - when they were on the path? Would they have thought to bring something of Jodi’s along with them do you think?

i dont know the answer to this I only know what ive read so far which isnt a huge amount.

[Angelo222]

do you know why cell analysis wasnt used? Was it available back then?

It wouldn't help.

[Bullseye]

My question is who said the 3 statements had been changed? Is there proof? . My 2nd question which I've asked sandra lean and never got a proper reply. Is what exactly was the dog trained to track?

On the blue forum (Jeremy bamber forum) Sandra also stated - The dog's tracker training records were in police hands and they also interviewed the trainer, who said her tracking abilities were "excellent" - he said she was a "natural". He was never asked to give evidence at trial. There would appear to be no doubt, from the records and the interview, that if the dog was in tracker mode, she would have alerted by reaching to the highest point she could find and "air-sniffing" in the direction of the thing she was alerting to.

[interested]

No.  They weren't looking for a body remember.  They thought she might have fallen and hurt herself and that is why the search began on the path leading to Newbattle.

how is this known?

[Mrs S]

“Mia training was being conducted by a highly skilled ex-military dog trainer with 25 years experience. He would later describe mias natural tracking ability as exceptional. He was never called to give evidence at the trial” but doesn’t say what specifically she was being trained for.

I believe Sandra has all or most of the statements related to the case, most of the info comes from her so we only have her word for this but I don’t see why she would lie, it would cause more trouble than it’s worth. I think she did use to post copies of stuff on an old website years ago (since closed down) but I can’t remember now if she posted them or just bits from it

I don't doubt that the dog had exceptional tracking abilities.  I have one who is exceptional in tracking.  Dogs are trained to track one thing. The training takes a lot of time and effort therefor theirvtraining is in one specific thing. Interested to know what Lukes dog was trained to track. Also to dispute what was said that luke might not have known dog was reacting when he was on way up to meet family. When a tracker dog is reacting You know!

[John]

how is this known?

From the Jones family.

[interested]

It wouldn't help.

why? would the same mast be used for the whole area?

[interested]

From the Jones family.

i thought they hadnt spoke out about any of it?

[Bullseye]

with all due respect that is out of a newspaper article, the appeal transcripts says differently

It was also news paper articles that got us here in the first place reporting on a 14/15 year old boy. he was guilty well before the trial in the eyes of a lot of people in Edinburgh I think due to news reports.

[John]

I don't doubt that the dog had exceptional tracking abilities.  I have one who is exceptional in tracking.  Dogs are trained to track one thing. The training takes a lot of time and effort therefor theirvtraining is in one specific thing. Interested to know what Lukes dog was trained to track. Also to dispute what was said that luke might not have known dog was reacting when he was on way up to meet family. When a tracker dog is reacting You know!

The dog knew Jodi well so had no trouble finding her. It's not surprising Judy and Janine wondered why Mia hadn't found Jodi on the first pass.

[interested]

I don't doubt that the dog had exceptional tracking abilities.  I have one who is exceptional in tracking.  Dogs are trained to track one thing. The training takes a lot of time and effort therefor theirvtraining is in one specific thing. Interested to know what Lukes dog was trained to track. Also to dispute what was said that luke might not have known dog was reacting when he was on way up to meet family. When a tracker dog is reacting You know!

i will take your word for that, but a working dog is instructed to work, it isnt in work mode all the time, that could be the reason it didn't react at first.

[John]

i thought they hadnt spoke out about any of it?

Not publicly but on justice forums.  I have interacted with several family members and a few others including Mark Kane and Scott Forbes. Also Corinne Mitchell at one time before she stopped answering questions.

[Bullseye]

I don't doubt that the dog had exceptional tracking abilities.  I have one who is exceptional in tracking.  Dogs are trained to track one thing. The training takes a lot of time and effort therefor theirvtraining is in one specific thing. Interested to know what Lukes dog was trained to track. Also to dispute what was said that luke might not have known dog was reacting when he was on way up to meet family. When a tracker dog is reacting You know!

Also be good to know how long it was being trained for etc

[Vertigo Swirl]

with all due respect that is out of a newspaper article, the appeal transcripts says differently

So there was no text sent at 1638 from Jodi to Mitchell?  Do you have a cite to the passage of the transcript you are referring to please?

[interested]

Not publicly but on justice forums.  I have interacted with several family members.

have you heard directly from those in the search group? if they thought she had fell and hurt herself then Luke would have seen her on the path lying there because there was no reason to believe she was on the other side of the wall, right? So why go back down a path that has already been walked with no sighting of her? I dont get it and if it was their suggestion and not Lukes then I cant see how he was leading the way.

im not saying they knew she was there btw, just doesnt add up.