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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #915 on: October 28, 2022, 11:28:41 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3165495.stm 20th August 2003

Audio
"” Speaking outside St David's….

Marion Docherty, said staff would be trying to ensure some sense of normality.

She said: "We are obviously sensitive to the fact that many young people and staff are still mourning the death of their friend Jodi Jones.

They'll be told to be positive, to be strong within their community and to be respectful of Jodi's family.
"


Killer Luke Mitchell and his callous mother Corinne obviously didn’t get the memo

Killer Luke Mitchell and his cruel and callous mother showed contempt and total disrespect to Jodi’s family and did not heed Marion Docherty’s words


The boyfriend of Jodi Jones, the murdered Midlothian teenager, has lost his appeal against a ban from the school they attended.
Luke Mitchell, 15, was excluded from St David's High in Dalkeith in September after an argument with Marion Docherty, the headteacher.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12528623.jodi-joness-boyfriend-loses-school-appeal/
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #916 on: October 28, 2022, 11:36:32 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3165495.stm 20th August 2003

Audio
"” Speaking outside St David's….

Marion Docherty, said staff would be trying to ensure some sense of normality.

She said: "We are obviously sensitive to the fact that many young people and staff are still mourning the death of their friend Jodi Jones.

They'll be told to be positive, to be strong within their community and to be respectful of Jodi's family.
"


Why would cruel and callous Corinne Mitchell refer to Marion Docherty as ‘hitler in a skirt’ because she had asked all pupils to be respectful to Jodi’s family?

In reality these were Corinne Mitchell’s projections

Killer Luke Mitchell and his cruel and callous mother Corinne were not conned by Sky news/James Matthews - they used that staged interview because they knew it was only a matter of time before Luke would be arrested
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #917 on: October 28, 2022, 11:47:58 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3165495.stm 20th August 2003

Audio
"” Speaking outside St David's….

Marion Docherty, said staff would be trying to ensure some sense of normality.

She said: "We are obviously sensitive to the fact that many young people and staff are still mourning the death of their friend Jodi Jones.

They'll be told to be positive, to be strong within their community and to be respectful of Jodi's family.
"


Killer Luke Mitchell and his callous mother Corinne obviously didn’t get the memo

This was the same day killer Luke Mitchell was excluded from returning to school



Officials say the exclusion was prompted by concern for Luke's wellbeing, and discipline at the school, but his family have said they may take legal action

Donald MacKay, the education chief for Midlothian council, has defended the decision to keep Luke away.

“It was my judgment that it was better to get the school settled down over the next couple of days, and then to get Luke back in on Friday probably, and get things back to normal for everybody."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/aug/21/ukcrime.kirstyscott
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #918 on: October 28, 2022, 11:53:42 AM »
‘Mitchell's criminal activities and his attempts to corrupt other pupils with drugs and Satanism were no secret at St David's. But at a time when the Scottish Executive's policy was to avoid excluding troublesome pupils, he was allowed to remain at the school, mixing with other youngsters - one of whom would pay for her relationship with him with her life.

One school source said:

"Luke's problem at school was indiscipline. He had control over a group of pupils who were scared of him. But he would also defy teachers. If he didn't want to do something, he wouldn't do it.

"I don't think the teachers had control of him. I think he was in control."

Mitchell was recognised as the ringleader of a group of pupils who were involved in "Goth" culture, fascinated with Satanism and the occult. Yet sources at the school say his behaviour was not brought to the attention of the school board.

One parent close to the school management team said: "It's very worrying it wasn't picked up and dealt with earlier. Parents were not told there was any problem with Satanism and I don't remember hearing Luke Mitchell's name raised. If teachers had worries, but these weren't acted on sufficiently because of the local authority, that would be very concerning."

There were signs of serious problems with pupil behaviour at St David's even before Jodi's murder. In 2001 13-year-old Emma Robertson hanged herself in her bedroom at the family home in Dalkeith. Fellow pupils claimed she had been the victim of bullying, which some said was rife in the school. The then headmaster, Joe Boyd, denied bullying was a serious problem. Just one month later a further scandal hit St David's when four 14-year-olds were reported to the police after being caught with cannabis in the school gym. All four were suspended, but none were permanently excluded.

The report noted that "the guidance team, although containing mostly new and acting guidance teachers, managed their respective responsibilities well" and there were "very good" arrangements for supporting children's welfare.

Yet some teachers were concerned about Mitchell's obsession with violence and the occult. He was referred to an educational psychologist after an assault on another pupil when he was in primary school, aged 11. By January 2003 some teachers at St David's were also growing concerned.

English teacher Geraldine Mackie received an essay from Mitchell on the subject of the end of the world. In it, he described himself as violent and Satanic. "It was quite worrying," Mackie told Mitchell's trial. "There were quite a few things in it I found a little bit disturbing. I thought he needed to have a little chat with someone - perhaps he was in need of support."

But what is clear is that Mitchell's behaviour continued to spiral out of control. At one point he carved the Satanic number 666 into his arm with a school compass, and it has been reported that a music teacher intervened as Mitchell throttled another pupil. On that occasion it is believed that he was referred to an educational psychologist, but refused treatment. A spokeswoman for Midlothian council refused to comment on whether police, social workers or mental health professionals had been approached by the school about Mitchell. Asked if the school had tackled Mitchell's drug dealing, she insisted it "was not happening inside the school".

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2008/07_08/2008_07_01_ScotlandOnSunday_SafeCatholic.htm
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #919 on: October 28, 2022, 12:02:53 PM »
This was the same day killer Luke Mitchell was excluded from returning to school



Officials say the exclusion was prompted by concern for Luke's wellbeing, and discipline at the school, but his family have said they may take legal action

Donald MacKay, the education chief for Midlothian council, has defended the decision to keep Luke away.

“It was my judgment that it was better to get the school settled down over the next couple of days, and then to get Luke back in on Friday probably, and get things back to normal for everybody."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/aug/21/ukcrime.kirstyscott

Reported by the Herald on the 11th September 2003

“The boyfriend of Jodi Jones has refused individual tuition at home
after walking out of his school.
Luke Mitchell left St David’s RC High School in Dalkeith
earlier this week following a row with Marion Docherty, the
headteacher over being isolated from other pupils.
His family continued discussions with the education authority about
attending another school, but his solicitor Nigel Beaumont said
home tutoring was “not an option to be
considered”.

“Luke Mitchell was banned from St David’s RC High School in
Dalkeith following a row with headteacher Marion Docherty.
The teenager was furious when he returned to school to find he had
been placed in isolation. A row ensued and Mitchell stormed out and
was later excluded. He has private lessons at a community centre
after rejecting a transfer to another school nearby.
Yesterday, it emerged that a Midlothian education panel heard
Mitchell’s appeal against the ban, but sided with the
headteacher.


Reported by the Daily Record on the 20th November 2003
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #920 on: October 28, 2022, 12:20:37 PM »
Sandra Lean
Stephanie Nicol No, wait, she's also apparently burning his clothes later, while he's out "doing the rest later," since the garden fire(s) happened between 6 and 7pm and then about 9 - 10pm, after heavy rain. So, first set of clothing burning, then put out by the rain!


Would the fire service agree with pretend criminologist Sandra Lean that the rain puts out fires ?

Pretend criminologist Sandra Lean stated in 2014 that Corinne Mitchell had “problems with her teeth” and she linked these “problems” with Corinne Mitchell’s teeth to “alcohol”

In 2019 when she appeared on the James English podcast Corinne Mitchell made it clear she had new teeth when she stated the letters ‘J’ played ‘havoc’ with her new teeth

How old was Corinne Mitchell when she first started drinking and were her drinking ‘issues’ linked to her adoption?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #921 on: October 28, 2022, 12:26:57 PM »
Pretend criminologist Sandra Lean stated in 2014 that Corinne Mitchell had “problems with her teeth” and she linked these “problems” with Corinne Mitchell’s teeth to “alcohol”

In 2019 when she appeared on the James English podcast Corinne Mitchell made it clear she had new teeth when she stated the letters ‘J’ played ‘havoc’ with her new teeth

How old was Corinne Mitchell when she first started drinking and were her drinking ‘issues’ linked to her adoption?

What did Philip Mitchell say about his ex wife’s ‘issues’ with alcohol ?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #922 on: October 28, 2022, 12:27:36 PM »
And what did Shane Mitchell tell police about his mothers alcohol consumption ?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #924 on: October 28, 2022, 06:41:28 PM »
Louise Reid
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFSBLq2X/
Found this very emotional to make for luke.
He's innocent. How long must this go on. He's lost all those young years, adult years. Having his first pint, passing his driving test, getting his first job, meeting someone and maybe having a family. Missing all this for a crime he didn't commit, while the real person/persons involve live their lives. Tiktok by name. Tiktok by nature. It will eventually catch up with you⏲️


Don’t know who Louise Reid is and how she thinks she knows killer Luke Mitchell but she’s been duped by the innocence fraud grift
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #927 on: October 28, 2022, 09:18:03 PM »
Scott Burns
Hi I’ve got a question. Did anyone other than Jodi’s family see or speak to Jodi after she got home from school? Just as far as I can make out her arrangements to meet Luke was only a text message from Jodi’s mums phone and that might not have been Jodi sending it.

Sandra Lean
Ronnie Mothersole that might be how some of us would understand "just left," but there was some discussion at appeal about how the timescale could be vastly different between different individuals - an older friend of mine, when prompted about times, would say, "in the last wee while," which could, in reality, be anything up to a couple of hours!!!!

I don't think we can generalise the use of "just left" to personal understandings of the term -  although I can see how many people would assume that to be a short amount of time, it is, still, an assumption.

Another thing we'd have to consider is AO's awareness of the passage of time. If he's come out of the loo and zoned out in front of the tv, he might not have been aware of how much time had passed when the phone rang. He hadn't eaten yet, so there would be nothing, really, for him to compare timings against.

Different, I'd say, from JuJ, who was making a meal with specific timings for specific elements of the meal - she was consciously clock watching for various things to be ready for the next stage.

Of course, I'm not saying any of this WAS the case for AO - it might actually be the case the "they" (whoever "they" are) had just left within the last 5 - 10 minutes - as with so much in this case, we just don't know!



Sandra Lean may have been the type of mother who lacked the awareness to notice the different movements and sounds   each of her daughters made when they walked around her house

But Judith Jones and Allen Ovens daughter/step daughter had not long been murdered by sadistic and psychopathic teen killer Luke Mitchell

They would have gone over and over and over again in their minds about every single last detail they could recall about [Name removed]’s to ensure they gave the police the best possible information they could

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #928 on: October 28, 2022, 09:32:40 PM »
Has Sandra Lean told her cult-like followers where each of her daughters were living when [Name removed] was murdered by psycho teen killer LM?

Maybe Sandra Lean and her lackey side kick, narcissistic fantasist Scott Forbes can do another video
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #929 on: October 29, 2022, 11:26:43 AM »
Yet  Luke said he took 6 steps to the left and saw feet, and after another step recognised it as [Name removed]’s body”

👆🏽 by Gordo

No mention of this in the scam TV show (Source https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg117610.html#msg117610)
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