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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4875 on: November 28, 2023, 07:27:08 PM »
Witnesses who gave evidence during sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell’s 2004/05 trial

1. Leonard Kelly
2. Judith Jones
3. Janine Jones snippet 9th December https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-search-trio-evidence-some-testimony.html
4. Alice Walker 13th December https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/alice-walker-full-transcript-131204.html
5. Steven Kelly 10th & 13th December https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/steven-kelly-full-transcripts.html
6. Allen Ovens
7. Ronald Miller
8. Craig Dobbie
9. John F erris
10. Gordon D ickie
11. Susan Ure
12. Anthony Busuttil
13. Rosemary Walsh
14. Lorraine Fleming - 1st December snippet https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/transcript-comparison-notes.html
15. Carol Heatlie
16. Marion O’Sullivan
17. Derek Hamilton
18. Andrew Holburn
19. Dean Houston
20. Grant Elliot
21. Ashleigh Coutts
22. Kimberley Thomson
23. Andrina Bryson
24. Shane Mitchell 10th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-100105-transcript-day.html, 12th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-12012005.html 13th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-13012005.html
25. Corinne Mitchell - snippet 13th December https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-parka-jacket-and-witnesses.html
26. Dc Alan Towers
27. Dc Stephen Quinn
28. Dc George Thomson
29. Robert Gilhooly,
30. Matthew Muraska
31. Rachel Quinn
32. Alexander Hamilton
33. Keith Campbell
34. Michelle Tierney
35. Alistair Leitch
36. David High
37. David Tullock
38. Michelle Lindsay
39. Derek Scrimger
40. Alan Murray
41. Mark Heron
42. Natalie Wright
43. Raymond McCloy
44. James Aitken
45. Patricia Frankland
46. Nicholas Frankland
47. George Ramage
48. Geraldine Mackie
49. Chemistry teacher who commented on killer Luke Mitchell looking like a “hooded monk” in his now missing khaki green parka style coat
50. Maths teacher
51. DI William Cravens
52. Laura Wightman - paragraphs from Laura’s July 2003 & September 2004 witness statements read to jury
53. Dc Brian Melrose
54. The witness who was an employee for the firm of solicitors representing killer Luke Mitchell
55. Colin - a manager from Flip Inc
56. Ben Sole
57. DI Tom Martin
58. Dc Rory Hamilton
59. David Stirling
60. David Suttie
61. Derek Morris
62. Pathologist report for defence
63. Dc Adam Brunton
64. Jonathan Whitaker
65. Pc Anita Dow
66. Dc Stephen Livingston
67. DI Tom Martin
68. Dr Kranti Hiremath
69. Pc Fraser Gaffney
70. Mahasweta Roy
71. Jill Barnes
72. Former partner of Leonard Kelly
73. Friend of David Tullock

Who’s missing from this list

Gemma Chapman aka Freddie Gren has apparently claimed she also gave evidence during killer Luke Mitchell’s trial
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4876 on: November 28, 2023, 07:43:41 PM »
Who made a witness statement claiming they had seen a maroon frontera at the end of Roans dyke path and what exactly did Gordon D ickie tell the jury about that yellow framed push bike he saw at the railings of the school?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4877 on: November 28, 2023, 07:48:02 PM »
If they were all conspiring together then why did Shane not say from the very beginning that he had seen Luke? Job done.

He did

Then when narcissist Shane Mitchell was caught in his bare faced lies and concoction he appears to have blamed the police family liaison officer


Shane Mitchell: But when I gave that statement on.. is it the 7th?

Alan Turnbull: The 7th

Shane Mitchell: I didn’t say for definite I saw Luke in the kitchen, it’s - as I was saying earlier on - I was prompted by DC Lindsay

Alan Turnbull: Okay

Shane Mitchell: She wouldn’t take for an answer that I wasn’t sure, she wrote down in no uncertain terms



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Maybe you should familiarise yourself with Shane Mitchell & his full trial testimony

10th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-100105-transcript-day.html
12th January https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-12012005.html
13th January
https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/shane-mitchell-full-transcript-13012005.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4878 on: November 28, 2023, 08:06:37 PM »
He did

Then when narcissist Shane Mitchell was caught in his bare faced lies and concoction he appears to have blamed the police family liaison officer


Shane Mitchell: But when I gave that statement on.. is it the 7th?

Alan Turnbull: The 7th

Shane Mitchell: I didn’t say for definite I saw Luke in the kitchen, it’s - as I was saying earlier on - I was prompted by DC Lindsay

Alan Turnbull: Okay

Shane Mitchell: She wouldn’t take for an answer that I wasn’t sure, she wrote down in no uncertain terms

Sounds like Dc Michelle Lindsay knew Shane Mitchell was telling bare faced lies and making up nonsense

What kind of person chooses to tell bare faced lies and concoctions like Shane Mitchell most definitely did after a 14 year old girl - Jodi Jones - is found murdered?

 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4879 on: November 28, 2023, 08:15:06 PM »
Shane Mitchell is referring to the 3rd July 2003 here

Shane Mitchell: After giving my first statement, coming home and thinking about it, I realised that it was wrong. I realised that nearly everything about it was wrong because my head was so screwed up because what had been going on

Shane Mitchell: I couldn’t.. I generally couldn’t remember a single thing about that day, my memories went completely.. they were all over the place 


Shane Mitchell: But when I signed that statement I’d been questioned for over 5 hours. I was tired, confused, hungry. I wanted to go home. I wanted to get out of there. I didn’t have the energy left to do anything further about it

It was more than likely Shane Mitchell’s bare faced lies and concoctions on the 3rd July which saw the police view his bother as a prime suspect

He did

Shane Mitchell: But when I gave that statement on.. is it the 7th?

Alan Turnbull: The 7th

Shane Mitchell: I didn’t say for definite I saw Luke in the kitchen, it’s - as I was saying earlier on - I was prompted by DC Lindsay

Alan Turnbull: Okay

Shane Mitchell: She wouldn’t take for an answer that I wasn’t sure, she wrote down in no uncertain terms

The day after Shane Mitchell gave his 2nd police witness statement

8th July 2003

Rosemary Walsh gave police her witness statement - in which she stated she had seen killer Luke Mitchell near a wooden gate on Newbattle road wearing a parka jacket

Rosemary Walsh
If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka

This was before killer Luke Mitchell and his enabling mother Corinne Mitchell had purchased a replacement Parka jacket from FLIP

As previously stated, a staff member who worked at FLIP had recognised killer Luke Mitchell because they knew Jodi Jones

The staff member reported this to their line manager who in turned alerted the police

Killer Luke Mitchell had not even worn his replacement parka jacket by the time Rosemary Walsh had finished giving her first police statement
 
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4880 on: November 28, 2023, 10:40:01 PM »
Shane Mitchell: After giving my first statement, coming home and thinking about it, I realised that it was wrong. I realised that nearly everything about it was wrong because my head was so screwed up because what had been going on

Why exactly was Shane Mitchell “head so screwed up”?

What had Shane Mitchell done to cause this?

What exactly “had been going on” to screw up Shane Mitchell’s head?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4881 on: November 28, 2023, 10:58:34 PM »
”What was Luke wearing when waiting at the end of his street? (excerpts from 02/12/04 transcript)”
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-boy-on-bike-and-green-shirt.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4882 on: November 29, 2023, 01:50:13 AM »
”What was Luke wearing when waiting at the end of his street? (excerpts from 02/12/04 transcript)”
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https://lukemitchelltrialtranscripts.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-boy-on-bike-and-green-shirt.html

So Andrew Holburn described sadistic killer Luke Mitchell as wearing something like what he had seen in the window of FLIP

Andrew Holburn was the young man who did not know killer Luke Mitchell
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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4883 on: November 29, 2023, 06:12:34 AM »
Reading the transcripts isn’t the same as actually seeing and hearing Shane Mitchell say this

Indeed. I've always wanted to watch this trial in its entirety in high definition and with high-resolution audio. Would be interesting to see everyone's body language, micro expressions and so forth. I don't think either, though, is necessary to deduce what exactly SM meant with his comment, "It's not my place to think." It's just an outright absurd response. SM throughout his testimony was, paradoxically, transparent in his ambiguity. Easily sussed out by the fiercely intelligent Turnbull. SM was lost during the trial -- like a mouse in a maze. Poor guy's court time must've been akin to a car crash. I think the laddie has, in fairness, tried to carve out a decent life and career for himself, albeit a VERY late bloomer.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4884 on: November 29, 2023, 06:20:38 AM »
Shane Mitchell is referring to the 3rd July 2003 here

It was more than likely Shane Mitchell’s bare faced lies and concoctions on the 3rd July which saw the police view his bother as a prime suspect

The day after Shane Mitchell gave his 2nd police witness statement

8th July 2003

Rosemary Walsh gave police her witness statement - in which she stated she had seen killer Luke Mitchell near a wooden gate on Newbattle road wearing a parka jacket

This was before killer Luke Mitchell and his enabling mother Corinne Mitchell had purchased a replacement Parka jacket from FLIP

As previously stated, a staff member who worked at FLIP had recognised killer Luke Mitchell because they knew Jodi Jones

The staff member reported this to their line manager who in turned alerted the police

Killer Luke Mitchell had not even worn his replacement parka jacket by the time Rosemary Walsh had finished giving her first police statement

When did the Flip employee go to the police? If it was after Corrine had handed the receipt for the parka jacket to the police then the alert has little to no value.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4885 on: November 29, 2023, 07:34:23 AM »
When did the Flip employee go to the police? If it was after Corrine had handed the receipt for the parka jacket to the police then the alert has little to no value.

If memory serves, CM did not willingly hand over the receipt. Rather, M Lindsay was waiting on her returning because she suspected something was amiss and didn't trust her/them; it was her instinct telling her to be there as soon as they came in the door. I could be wrong, though, and maybe she was alerted to the jacket by Flip's C Proctor. Regardless, I don't think CM gave any information regarding the Parka of her own volition -- for she was, initially, imo, not going to deny LM had a parka, pretending that the one purchased from Flip on 08.07.03 was the one he always had. The crux here is that this new jacket, crucially, did not have any incriminating DNA on it (which would work considerably in the Mitchells' favour, since it would be impossible to escape from the locus without a single solitary trace of blood on such a large jacket; that really would have dumbfounded the police). If the police subsequently asked (which they obviously would have), for example, why was LM spotted with Jodi at Easthouses at 1655 and then spotted alone at N'battle rd at 1740, then they would have denied it was LM. At this stage, they would be banking on the police believing them on the count that those parkas were very popular jackets and that it was plausible that the person spotted at those 2 places was not LM (still quite a risky strategy, though). Even though the issue of the Parka is a bit of a quandary, the main thing for the Mitchells was that the old parka was destroyed because it no doubt had traces of Jodi's blood on it (probably traces that were not discernible unless inspected up close); outwith direct evidence of LM being caught on cctv murdering Jodi, her blood on his jacket was the next big thing for the police, and no doubt would really have sealed his fate. The Mitchells knew this. Imo, the Mitchells were covering all angles just to be safe, and then taking action and covering their tracks in accordance with what evidence the police may garner (a game of cat and mouse, if you like).

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4886 on: November 29, 2023, 08:33:53 AM »
If memory serves, CM did not willingly hand over the receipt. Rather, M Lindsay was waiting on her returning because she suspected something was amiss and didn't trust her/them; it was her instinct telling her to be there as soon as they came in the door. I could be wrong, though, and maybe she was alerted to the jacket by Flip's C Proctor. Regardless, I don't think CM gave any information regarding the Parka of her own volition -- for she was, initially, imo, not going to deny LM had a parka, pretending that the one purchased from Flip on 08.07.03 was the one he always had.

Colin was not in FLIP at the time killer Luke Mitchell and his enabling mother bought the replacement parka jacket, as fair as I am aware

Someone said on here that the replacement parka jacket may have been purchased on the day after Rosemary Walsh gave the police her first witness statement
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4887 on: November 29, 2023, 08:42:49 AM »
Indeed. I've always wanted to watch this trial in its entirety in high definition and with high-resolution audio. Would be interesting to see everyone's body language, micro expressions and so forth. I don't think either, though, is necessary to deduce what exactly SM meant with his comment, "It's not my place to think." It's just an outright absurd response. SM throughout his testimony was, paradoxically, transparent in his ambiguity. Easily sussed out by the fiercely intelligent Turnbull. SM was lost during the trial -- like a mouse in a maze. Poor guy's court time must've been akin to a car crash. I think the laddie has, in fairness, tried to carve out a decent life and career for himself, albeit a VERY late bloomer.

Scammer Sandra Lean from her 2nd innocence fraud book p.121

His alibi for the period prior to 6pm was dependent on his mother and brother, both of whom were treated as suspicious almost from the beginning of the investigation.

Based on Shane Mitchell’s 3rd July 2003 police interview and witness statements - for very good reason
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4888 on: November 29, 2023, 08:46:15 AM »
The day after Shane Mitchell gave his 2nd police witness statement

8th July 2003

Rosemary Walsh gave police her witness statement - in which she stated she had seen killer Luke Mitchell near a wooden gate on Newbattle road wearing a parka jacket
If I was to describe what type of jacket, I’d say a parka

This was before killer Luke Mitchell and his enabling mother Corinne Mitchell had purchased a replacement Parka jacket from FLIP

As previously stated, a staff member who worked at FLIP had recognised killer Luke Mitchell because they knew Jodi Jones

The staff member reported this to their line manager who in turned alerted the police

Killer Luke Mitchell had not even worn his replacement parka jacket by the time Rosemary Walsh had finished giving her first police statement

Scammer Sandra Lean p.121 from her betraying the innocent book

A critical part of the prosecution case was a claim that Luke owned a Parka jacket prior to the murder which had since disappeared, disposed of in a log burner in the family’s back garden to destroy incriminating evidence. Therefore, any eyewitness sightings of Luke would, of necessity, have to contain descriptions of him in a Parka jacket, both to support claims that it was Luke that those witnesses saw and the contention that he was forced to destroy the Parka jacket because it became contaminated with Jodi’s blood and other evidence during the murder

Luke said that he was wearing the same green bomber jacket, baggy jeans and distinctive, light coloured snowboarding boots that he wore to school earlier that day (exactly the clothing taken from him by police on the night of the murder). He did not own a Parka jacket prior to the murder – his mum had to buy him new clothing after the police took everything he owned in the first raid on July 4th – the Parka he owned after the murder was bought in that shopping trip and the receipt for it was taken by the police.
The manner in which these threads were pulled together to convince a jury that the evidence supporting them was credible and reliable is shocking, but the jury and the media were not party to many of the events I am about to relate and so did not have the benefit of all of the available information on which to base their decisions about this evidence. 


What was “shocking” exactly?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4889 on: November 29, 2023, 09:13:14 AM »
If memory serves, CM did not willingly hand over the receipt. Rather, M Lindsay was waiting on her returning because she suspected something was amiss and didn't trust her/them; it was her instinct telling her to be there as soon as they came in the door. I could be wrong, though, and maybe she was alerted to the jacket by Flip's C Proctor.

Scammer Sandra Lean, referring to the 14th August 2003 police interview, stated in her 2nd innocence fraud book p.222-223

Unfortunately for them, the German army shirt was actually in police possession at the time of this interrogation and at the same time as the interrogation was taking place, FLO Michelle Lindsay was asking for and being provided with the receipt for the Parka and other clothing bought on 9th July.

It was Corinne Mitchell who claimed Dc Michelle Lindsay was waiting for her and her killer son Luke Mitchell when they returned from their shopping trip to FLIP on the 8th or 9th July 2003

The trial transcripts will no doubt clarify this

However if the replacement parka jacket was purchased on the 9th July 2003, this would obviously have been the day after Rosemary Walsh told the police she had seen killer Luke Mitchell wearing a parka jacket on the 30th July 2003 at around 5:40pm near the wooden gate on Newbattle road.

8th July 2003
Rosemary Walsh gave police her witness statement - in which she stated she had seen killer Luke Mitchell near a wooden gate on Newbattle road wearing a parka jacket
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