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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #450 on: October 06, 2021, 12:58:42 PM »
Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

Does Brett Collins give you the impression Jeremy Bamber has spoken to him prior to the murders about hiring a ‘mercenary’ to carry out the murders?

There’s a lot of material in Brett Collins interview with Kay Page https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g which he’s seemingly not spoken about before - or at least if he’s has its not been reported on by the media? Could it be because they may not be aware of it’s possible significance to the facts of the case against Bamber?

Brett Collins clearly said to Kay

‘I think something went wrong’

What?

What went wrong?

Brett Collins appears to say here at around 12:38 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g he was in Amsterdam or Groningen before travelling to the UK to visit with Bamber in the June of 1985

He mentions his older brother and his wife living in a ‘big house on her cousins farm’ and how he catches a train for Amsterdam to Groningen

He states,

‘So that was the start of me moving around’

Does he mean this is where he was prior to visiting Bamber in the June 85’?

And when he refers to seeing an English newspapers he seems to emphasise how he hadn’t seen one for ‘a long time’ but he was only in the UK a couple of weeks or so previously so his claim to having not seen one for ‘a long time’ doesn’t make sense?

He arrived here some day after the 17th June, I think... but definitely left for three weeks in Greece on the 19th July.



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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #451 on: October 06, 2021, 01:27:21 PM »
Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

Why - when he arrived back into the UK following the murders - did Brett Collins automatically appear to think ‘someone had hired a professional’ ?

And who did he think would have done this?

Brett Collins stated to Kay Page,

‘I thought someone had hired a professional to kill so many people so quickly’

But why?

Unless..

Could Bamber have spoken to Brett Collins about this before he went to Greece ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #452 on: October 06, 2021, 01:38:24 PM »

Brett Collins appears to say here at around 12:38 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g he was in Amsterdam or Groningen before travelling to the UK to visit with Bamber in the June of 1985

He mentions his older brother and his wife living in a ‘big house on her cousins farm’ and how he catches a train for Amsterdam to Groningen

He states,

‘So that was the start of me moving around’

Does anyone know where Brett Collins was prior to visiting the UK in June 1985?

During the Mindhouse TV docuseries he said he bought a ticket from New Zealand to London ?

And when exactly did he visit his brother and his wife - in their ‘big house on her cousins farm’ in Groningen?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #453 on: October 06, 2021, 01:42:49 PM »
Most definitely there was more to it, Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only one with inside knowledge of what was going to go down.

I couldn’t find a copy of Brett Collins police witness statement on the forum - is a copy available Angelo?
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Offline APRIL

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #454 on: October 06, 2021, 01:45:08 PM »
I’d be interested to know when exactly Brett Collins was made aware of the supposed ‘£25-35k’ donations June Bamber was making each year to the church ?


Much has been made on  -cough, cough, another forum!!!- about the VAST and one off payment Julie received for her story. I can't begin to even contemplate the wealth/disposable income necessary to donate such an amount PER ANNUM to any charity. From where would June have taken such funds? Was she wealthy in her own right, OR, was it from a joint fund. Could it have been a yearly dividend donated in its entirety?

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #455 on: October 06, 2021, 01:51:36 PM »

Much has been made on  -cough, cough, another forum!!!- about the VAST and one off payment Julie received for her story.

Did Anji (Angela) Greaves receive the same amount of money or more than Julie Mugford?

And how much did Brett Collins pocket back then ?

From around 44:25 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #456 on: October 06, 2021, 01:52:54 PM »
I can't begin to even contemplate the wealth/disposable income necessary to donate such an amount PER ANNUM to any charity. From where would June have taken such funds? Was she wealthy in her own right, OR, was it from a joint fund. Could it have been a yearly dividend donated in its entirety?

I’ve no idea April but it’s really interesting how Brett Collins has mentioned this recently to Kay

‘£25-35k’ each year apparently
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #457 on: October 06, 2021, 01:59:03 PM »
Why - when he arrived back into the UK following the murders - did Brett Collins automatically appear to think ‘someone had hired a professional’ ?

‘This thing popped up

is how Brett Collins refers to the murders of Nevil, June, Sheila, Daniel and Nicholas at one point during his interview apwith Kay
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #458 on: October 06, 2021, 02:06:38 PM »

And how much did Brett Collins pocket back then ?


Apparently Brett Collins received payment for a news story after Bamber’s initial arrest for the Caravan break in and he was also apparently flown back from New Zealand and put up in a hotel in London following Bamber’s guilty verdict at trial in 1986
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Offline APRIL

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #459 on: October 06, 2021, 02:10:23 PM »
I’ve no idea April but it’s really interesting how Brett Collins has mentioned this recently to Kay

‘£25-35k’ each year apparently

Brett pulling a sum out of the ether, OR Brett repeating what JB might have told him?...............as did Julie.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #460 on: October 06, 2021, 02:15:23 PM »

Brett Collins appears to say here at around 12:38 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g he was in Amsterdam or Groningen before travelling to the UK to visit with Bamber in the June of 1985

He mentions his older brother and his wife living in a ‘big house on her cousins farm’ and how he catches a train for Amsterdam to Groningen

Brett Collins brother was also mentioned by Roger Wilkes in his book Blood Relations

’The trio travelled first class, because the trip was part holiday and part business. Jeremy and Brett wanted to buy cannabis. Brett, who had a brother living in Amsterdam, knew of a bar where cannabis was traded, and they made their purchases at lunchtime the following day, much to Julie’s disdainful irritation. At the five-star Hôtel de l’Europe, Brett and Jeremy packed the cannabis into drinking straws which were then slipped into jumbo-sized tubes of toothpaste. Jeremy had spent nearly £100 on the drug and there was so much of it that he couldn’t fit it all in, so he commandeered a bottle of Julie’s cocoa-butter skin lotion.

Although Brett tells Kay Page he didn’t use cannabis back then 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #461 on: October 06, 2021, 02:48:21 PM »
Brett pulling a sum out of the ether, OR Brett repeating what JB might have told him?...............as did Julie.

Brett Collins talks about the alleged donations to the church when referring to his stay in he UK prior to the murders

Around 8:16 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #462 on: October 06, 2021, 04:29:28 PM »
Brett Collins talks about the alleged donations to the church when referring to his stay in he UK prior to the murders

Around 8:16 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IWwUJXZ8g

I don’t know if Brett Collins posted the comments on the above YouTube video but if he did

He states,

just saw the new  episode and interview  about my former friend Jeremy  Bamber its as close to the truth as was told by me  ! as i was there  before and after the murders finally some truth BRETT COLLINS NEW ZEALAND


‘you had to be there  before and after  to no what really  hapendl! looks like jeremy  had a plan all along he promised to many women  marrage when he got his money!
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Offline Myster

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #463 on: October 06, 2021, 05:01:27 PM »
I’ve no idea April but it’s really interesting how Brett Collins has mentioned this recently to Kay

‘£25-35k’ each year apparently
He said Dollars (NZ presumably).  £25,000 = 12,740 NZ$...

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=25000+new+zealand+dollars+to+pounds
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Offline Myster

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #464 on: October 06, 2021, 05:02:48 PM »
I don’t know if Brett Collins posted the comments on the above YouTube video but if he did

He states,

just saw the new  episode and interview  about my former friend Jeremy  Bamber its as close to the truth as was told by me  ! as i was there  before and after the murders finally some truth BRETT COLLINS NEW ZEALAND


‘you had to be there  before and after  to no what really  hapendl! looks like jeremy  had a plan all along he promised to many women  marrage when he got his money!
Still can't spell... poor lad.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.