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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2021, 03:34:31 PM »
When you asked if English was my mother tongue I loost the little respect I had for you.
I explained I had tried to stop all the sniping on the forum but you didn't believe me so I'm doing it again.
Your remark was plain sarcasm
I've given my opinion on Grime and his dogs so I'm sure you must understand what they are by now and need no further explanation.
For me Grime has a poor understanding of what constitutes evidence.
If a clairvoyant days does anyone know a Paul who has recently passed over.. And someone replies yes... That is anectdotal evidence and supports her skill.  For me that sums up Grimes claims

It was not sniping, it was a genuine question, there are many words that it seems you don't fully grasp the meanings of. You don't have to answer my question about your mother tongue but please in the spirit of this thread please answer this one.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

I don't know why you are so reticent to answer it?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2021, 03:44:04 PM »
It was not sniping, it was a genuine question, there are many words that it seems you don't fully grasp the meanings of. You don't have to answer my question about your mother tongue but please in the spirit of this thread please answer this one.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

I don't know why you are so reticent to answer it?

So you THINK there are words I don't fully grasp the meaning of and you decide for yourself it's a fact.
I dont see how you can come to that conclusion based on my posts.. To me that shows very poor logic.

I've answered your question.. With the clairvoyant ananalogy.
Grimes understanding of evidence... Is very poor imo.. Like the people who think clairvoyants are geniune.

If Eddie makes enough alerts.. 12 in Jersey.. About the same in Luz... He's bound to get one right.




Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2021, 04:01:37 PM »
It was not sniping, it was a genuine question, there are many words that it seems you don't fully grasp the meanings of. You don't have to answer my question about your mother tongue but please in the spirit of this thread please answer this one.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

I don't know why you are so reticent to answer it?

I think you totally underestimate what a sharp analytical mind I have.
One of my sons who is a bit of a lad was facing expulsion from college.. Fir the umpteenth time and was accused this ime of plagiarism. As his tutors had found me a bit if a handful in a debating sense they decided to involve the dean..of the college to chair the meeting.. A successful academic.

I started the meeting and asked her how she would define plagiarism... She picked uo a piece of paper and read out the definition.  I asked for acuracy if that was her definition and she replied pompously.. No... The University of Oxford.. I think she felt she had really out me in my place... It's the timing that counts.

I explained to her that as it wasn't her definition she should have referenced it and as she didn't was guilty of plagiarism..

The meeting didn't last much longer. I did also explain that we had informed the college previously my son suffered from dyslexia... A protected disability.  .She lost all her pomposity and ended up being quite friendly.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2021, 04:08:25 PM »
It was not sniping, it was a genuine question, there are many words that it seems you don't fully grasp the meanings of. You don't have to answer my question about your mother tongue but please in the spirit of this thread please answer this one.

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

I don't know why you are so reticent to answer it?

You have a very simplistic way of looking at things.
You nay remember saying that words can have a variety of meanings so you would need to define exactly what you mean by support in order for me to answer the question.
If a Baker runs out of dough.. Should he go to the warehouse or the bank

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2021, 04:36:01 PM »
So you THINK there are words I don't fully grasp the meaning of and you decide for yourself it's a fact.
I dont see how you can come to that conclusion based on my posts.. To me that shows very poor logic.

I've answered your question.. With the clairvoyant ananalogy.
Grimes understanding of evidence... Is very poor imo.. Like the people who think clairvoyants are geniune.

If Eddie makes enough alerts.. 12 in Jersey.. About the same in Luz... He's bound to get one right.

No my question wasn’t

a> What is Grimes understanding of evidence?

b>Is, what a clairvoyant says an example of anecdotal evidence?

So your analogy answers nothing.

My question was:

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?


This question pertains to this thread you started and you seem reluctant to give a clear and precise answer, not an analogy.
I can give you a cite that explains what is anecdotal evidence if it helps.

“Witness statements in a court of law are anecdotal evidence.”

https://keystagewiki.com/index.php/Anecdotal_Evidence

It really doesn't mention a clairvoyants obvious deceptions and leading questions as anecdotal evidence.


Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2021, 04:37:14 PM »
I think you totally underestimate what a sharp analytical mind I have.
One of my sons who is a bit of a lad was facing expulsion from college.. Fir the umpteenth time and was accused this ime of plagiarism. As his tutors had found me a bit if a handful in a debating sense they decided to involve the dean..of the college to chair the meeting.. A successful academic.

I started the meeting and asked her how she would define plagiarism... She picked uo a piece of paper and read out the definition.  I asked for acuracy if that was her definition and she replied pompously.. No... The University of Oxford.. I think she felt she had really out me in my place... It's the timing that counts.

I explained to her that as it wasn't her definition she should have referenced it and as she didn't was guilty of plagiarism..

The meeting didn't last much longer. I did also explain that we had informed the college previously my son suffered from dyslexia... A protected disability.  .She lost all her pomposity and ended up being quite friendly.

Without saying too much about this rambling meaningless post, self praise is indeed faint praise.

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2021, 04:39:13 PM »
You have a very simplistic way of looking at things.
You nay remember saying that words can have a variety of meanings so you would need to define exactly what you mean by support in order for me to answer the question.
If a Baker runs out of dough.. Should he go to the warehouse or the bank
That's why you need context, you should probably assume the warehouse as he is a baker but you could be wrong.
Simple is sometimes better.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2021, 05:39:31 PM »
Without saying too much about this rambling meaningless post, self praise is indeed faint praise.

It isn't self praise... My sons been telling the story for ten years... It was quite a brilliant opening... You just can't stand to give credit where it's due.
I had to go to a meeting with my younger sons headmistress.. My daughter said.. She's really horrible and stern.. My older son said... I feel sorry for her already

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #68 on: December 26, 2021, 05:48:22 PM »
Without saying too much about this rambling meaningless post, self praise is indeed faint praise.

You really want it all your own way don't you... Perhaps you are used to getting it.
You criticise my understanding of words and question my nationality... You should expect a reply.  The difference between us is that you cannot come up with anything as original as a out down and rely on tired cliches.

I need to ask you again... Do you want to stop the insults ...you aren't very good at them si that's probably your best option..... Then have an adult conversation or do you want to continue with childish posts

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #69 on: December 26, 2021, 05:53:03 PM »
You really want it all your own way don't you... Perhaps you are used to getting it.
You criticise my understanding of words and question my nationality... You should expect a reply.  The difference between us is that you cannot come up with anything as original as a out down and rely on tired cliches.

I need to ask you again... Do you want to stop the insults ...you aren't very good at them si that's probably your best option..... Then have an adult conversation or do you want to continue with childish posts

I never questioned your nationality, I couldn't care where you come from.
What insults do you speak of?
All I want is for you to give me a clear answer on the following question

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

its very simple address the question, its your thread.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2021, 06:14:34 PM »
I never questioned your nationality, I couldn't care where you come from.
What insults do you speak of?
All I want is for you to give me a clear answer on the following question

Statement says missing girl is seen entering into neighbours house (where a dog alerts) and isn’t seen leaving

Statement says missing girl was seen arriving home (where a dog alerts).

Are one or both of the anecdotal witness statements that support said dog alerts?

its very simple address the question, its your thread.

To suggest English is not my mother tongue questions my nationality... Streuth... Can you not see that.

I've replied to your question but you vsnt see that either.. Streuth again.
I said you need to define support.
You seem to think that confirm and support are the same... Therefore by childish logic as corroborate means confirm or support... Then support means corroborate.. I saw where you were going sone time ago
So   according to you.. a cadaver dog goes to a neighbours house where a child was last seen.. Any alert is supported.. And therefore corroborated... Absolute horse shit.. But it seems you believe it... Just to be clear.. I don't

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #71 on: December 26, 2021, 06:27:57 PM »
To suggest English is not my mother tongue questions my nationality... Streuth... Can you not see that.

I've replied to your question but you vsnt see that either.. Streuth again.
I said you need to define support.
You seem to think that confirm and support are the same... Therefore by childish logic as corroborate means confirm or support... Then support means corroborate.. I saw where you were going sone time ago
So   according to you.. a cadaver dog goes to a neighbours house where a child was last seen.. Any alert is supported.. And therefore corroborated... Absolute horse shit.. But it seems you believe it... Just to be clear.. I don't

So you believe that all British people's mothers tongue language is English. I have a shock for you.
Just for your own info, it probably is more likely to me that English is your mother tongue but you just have a poor understanding of vocabulary.
Please point out where I have ever said confirm and support  are the same thing, I pointed out that the dictionary describes the word corroborate as to confirm or give support to which is then about context which you believe applies. Its very basic English.


And if you don't think that the scenario I describe of the girl seeing entering the neighbours house where a dog alerted and wasn't seen leaving doesn't support the dogs alert then please don't say you have a sharp mind.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #72 on: December 26, 2021, 06:35:24 PM »
So you believe that all British people's mothers tongue language is English. I have a shock for you.
Just for your own info, it probably is more likely to me that English is your mother tongue but you just have a poor understanding of vocabulary.
Please point out where I have ever said confirm and support  are the same thing, I pointed out that the dictionary describes the word corroborate as to confirm or give support to which is then about context which you believe applies. Its very basic English.


And if you don't think that the scenario I describe of the girl seeing entering the neighbours house where a dog alerted and wasn't seen leaving doesn't support the dogs alert then please don't say you have a sharp mind.

If my mother tongue is not English it's unlikely I'm english.. You seem to be getting things back to front.

Twi of my staff stole 15 k from me. It's been to the cps twice... They say not enough evidence to secure a conviction. I'm launching a private criminal prosecution.  I'm not paying a lawyer or lawyers 30k.. I'm prosecuting myself for theft and fraud.. I probably won't bother with conspiracy to defraud so we can keep it in the magistrates court.  The evidence is overwhelming.  I ve learnt it all via Google ..I will win the case... I have a very sharp mind


Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #73 on: December 26, 2021, 06:42:34 PM »
If my mother tongue is not English it's unlikely I'm english.. You seem to be getting things back to front.

Twi of my staff stole 15 k from me. It's been to the cps twice... They say not enough evidence to secure a conviction. I'm launching a private criminal prosecution.  I'm not paying a lawyer or lawyers 30k.. I'm prosecuting myself for theft and fraud.. I probably won't bother with conspiracy to defraud so we can keep it in the magistrates court.  The evidence is overwhelming.  I ve learnt it all via Google ..I will win the case... I have a very sharp mind

Really! So if your parents came here from say Sri Lanka or Botswana, you are born here but as an infant you speak you mothers tongue and learn English at school you can't be English/British. That's a very strange view?

I have to honest and say that in my opinion I have seen no evidence of a sharp mind.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #74 on: December 26, 2021, 06:44:48 PM »
So you believe that all British people's mothers tongue language is English. I have a shock for you.
Just for your own info, it probably is more likely to me that English is your mother tongue but you just have a poor understanding of vocabulary.
Please point out where I have ever said confirm and support  are the same thing, I pointed out that the dictionary describes the word corroborate as to confirm or give support to which is then about context which you believe applies. Its very basic English.


And if you don't think that the scenario I describe of the girl seeing entering the neighbours house where a dog alerted and wasn't seen leaving doesn't support the dogs alert then please don't say you have a sharp mind.
Gordon Bennett, how many negatives can you fit imto one sentence?!  I’m completely lost, what the hell are you two arguing about?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".