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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #180 on: December 27, 2021, 06:49:03 PM »
I can't really bother to reply to such a silly post.  On such an important point we need to deal in facts not speculation

Let me make it really simple for you.. If it was a blind search then the alerrs are highly significant... Strange no ones mentioned it was if that was, the case

OK, got it. If Grime didn't know which apartment was which the alerts are highly significant in your opinion.
Nice to have such clarity from you,

PS. There is no evidence that Grime knew which apartment was which.

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #181 on: December 27, 2021, 06:50:19 PM »
My belief that grime knew the, apt was the crime scene is based on evidence.. It's my opinion.. It's of no importance. The important point is did he know

What evidence would that be then?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #182 on: December 27, 2021, 06:51:55 PM »
OK, got it. If Grime didn't know which apartment was which the alerts are highly significant in your opinion.
Nice to have such clarity from you,

PS. There is no evidence that Grime knew which apartment was which.

But it's pie in the sky for you because imo it's high impossible grime did not know... Based on the evidence

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #183 on: December 27, 2021, 06:53:26 PM »
OK, got it. If Grime didn't know which apartment was which the alerts are highly significant in your opinion.
Nice to have such clarity from you,

PS. There is no evidence that Grime knew which apartment was which.

Not just my opinion.. An absolute fact

Offline faithlilly

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #184 on: December 27, 2021, 07:29:42 PM »
I'm surprised you miss it's relevance.
It's another example of people using covid as an excuse... And another example of me catching them out using quite a novel method

Are you assuming that the lack of urgency with your wife’s glasses was deliberate? Why would they do that then give you an appointment?

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #185 on: December 27, 2021, 07:33:27 PM »
Are you assuming that the lack of urgency with your wife’s glasses was deliberate? Why would they do that then give you an appointment?
They were obviously more interested in selling more glasses than supplying those already sold

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #186 on: December 27, 2021, 07:35:03 PM »
Are you assuming that the lack of urgency with your wife’s glasses was deliberate? Why would they do that then give you an appointment?

Most opticians sell glasses but they aren't always made on the premises. If that applied here then an appointment wouldn't make the glasses available any quicker.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #187 on: December 27, 2021, 07:38:57 PM »
Most opticians sell glasses but they aren't always made on the premises. If that applied here then an appointment wouldn't make the glasses available any quicker.

The glasses must have been already made as they were available ti fit the following day.  The point is that the same staff helped sell glasses, as fitted them and the shop preferred to sell to get more money in

Offline faithlilly

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #188 on: December 27, 2021, 07:44:47 PM »
They were obviously more interested in selling more glasses than supplying those already sold

That’s a large assumption and a poor way to establish a loyal customer base.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #189 on: December 27, 2021, 08:07:57 PM »
You appear to think that the dogs alerted to 5A only because Grime knew the McCanns stayed there. That's quite an accusation based on no evidence.

The issue of Mr Grime's status and that of his dogs was discussed in great depth in the Jersey Inquiry.  https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20Operation%20Rectangle%20review%20of%20the%20efficient%20and%20effective%20use%20of%20resources%20201005%20BDO%20Alto.pdf
The cadaver dog was designated "incompetent" on arrival, as it was while on duty in Luz.  The CSI dog became incompetent during its time in Jersey.

The fact that Grime did not benefit from the presence of another experienced dog handler as per ACPO Recommendations was also subject to criticism.
Which was exactly the case during the searches in Luz.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #190 on: December 27, 2021, 08:25:57 PM »
So the difference is although you have no evidence to support it, you believe Grime was told before hand who had occupied the apartments.
He wasn't told who the cars belonged to ,but to you, they must have told him the which apartments were which.
Can you confirm it is only your opinion that Grime was told which apartment was which rather than a fact you can prove?
Areyou of the opinion that Grime had not followed the case of the most famous missing child in the world, and had never watched a news report on the subject beforebeing flown in to work on it?  Wow.  What leads you to that conclusion?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #191 on: December 27, 2021, 08:34:13 PM »
You appear to think that the dogs alerted to 5A only because Grime knew the McCanns stayed there. That's quite an accusation based on no evidence.

It's my opinion that from a scientific point of view the alerts are based in no real evidence

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #192 on: December 27, 2021, 08:52:08 PM »
But it's pie in the sky for you because imo it's high impossible grime did not know... Based on the evidence

OK, please share the evidence that you have, that makes it high impossible that Grime did not know which apartment had belonged to who?
 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #193 on: December 27, 2021, 08:54:14 PM »
OK, please share the evidence that you have, that makes it high impossible that Grime did not know which apartment had belonged to who?

Evidence is anything that supports, a proposition..

So first it's unlikely grime didn't read details.. Or be told details... Of the case and second because if the alerts were blind that would be absolutely sensational and would have been discussed
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #194 on: December 27, 2021, 08:55:11 PM »
The issue of Mr Grime's status and that of his dogs was discussed in great depth in the Jersey Inquiry.  https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20Operation%20Rectangle%20review%20of%20the%20efficient%20and%20effective%20use%20of%20resources%20201005%20BDO%20Alto.pdf
The cadaver dog was designated "incompetent" on arrival, as it was while on duty in Luz.  The CSI dog became incompetent during its time in Jersey.

The fact that Grime did not benefit from the presence of another experienced dog handler as per ACPO Recommendations was also subject to criticism.
Which was exactly the case during the searches in Luz.

Unlicenced police dogs were deemed incompetent by ACPO. As Eddie and Keela weren't police dogs they weren't required (or even eligible?) to be licenced.
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