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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #405 on: January 03, 2022, 02:39:56 PM »
You’re still struggling with the meaning of the word “evidence” after all these years aren’t you?  It’s quite staggering imo!

correct...if I had evidence of 100% certainty that would be proof...not evidence

Offline Brietta

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #406 on: January 03, 2022, 04:37:11 PM »
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
Perhaps I have phrased my question badly leading to your misunderstanding.

You posted "Eddie was a reliable dog according to his fieldwork record and his training on human cadaver scent in the US. In 2018 Grime was recommending such training for all UK human remains detection dogs.
I am not familiar with any US record of Eddie's training there as underlined.

If it isn't too much trouble please indicate within https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm that which you think confirms your statement.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #407 on: January 03, 2022, 05:04:41 PM »
Context and comprehension...you said it wasnt evidence...I.  said 100% its evidence.

We are both speaking english and still mistakes in understanding

I never said it wasn't evidence, I said it didn't 100% support your claim - something you admitted by claiming it was just one possibility.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #408 on: January 03, 2022, 05:12:09 PM »
I never said it wasn't evidence, I said it didn't 100% support your claim - something you admitted by claiming it was just one possibility.

I think you are confused

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #409 on: January 03, 2022, 05:23:49 PM »
Perhaps I have phrased my question badly leading to your misunderstanding.

You posted "Eddie was a reliable dog according to his fieldwork record and his training on human cadaver scent in the US. In 2018 Grime was recommending such training for all UK human remains detection dogs.
I am not familiar with any US record of Eddie's training there as underlined.

If it isn't too much trouble please indicate within https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm that which you think confirms your statement.

I'm sure the FBI have records of Grime taking Eddie to Tenessee, but I don't have access to them. You have to ask yourself why Grime and Harrison would lie about it? That would be very foolish.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #410 on: January 03, 2022, 05:25:44 PM »
I think you are confused

I think you're trying to confuse me because I showed your evidence didn't show what you claimed it did. .
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #411 on: January 03, 2022, 05:30:43 PM »
I think you're trying to confuse me because I showed your evidence didn't show what you claimed it did. .

You didn't show anything. A link to the post would

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #412 on: January 03, 2022, 05:34:53 PM »
I think you're trying to confuse me because I showed your evidence didn't show what you claimed it did. .
Calling the dog back supports the possibility of cueing and is therefore evidence of cueing

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #413 on: January 03, 2022, 06:27:08 PM »
Calling the dog back supports the possibility of cueing and is therefore evidence of cueing

It all supports the simpler explanation that it was how Grime worked his dog. Your suggestions are nothing more than guesses.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #414 on: January 03, 2022, 06:44:10 PM »
It all supports the simpler explanation that it was how Grime worked his dog. Your suggestions are nothing more than guesses.
You continue to demonstrate your lack of understanding about the meaning of the word “evidence”.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #415 on: January 03, 2022, 06:45:19 PM »
I think you're trying to confuse me because I showed your evidence didn't show what you claimed it did. .
Perhaps you could explain why it does not.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #416 on: January 03, 2022, 07:14:05 PM »
It all supports the simpler explanation that it was how Grime worked his dog. Your suggestions are nothing more than guesses.

thats your opinion...nothing more..
facts...Grime now describes Eddie as an unreliable dog

the investigation is ignoring the alerts

Offline Brietta

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #417 on: January 03, 2022, 07:17:04 PM »
I'm sure the FBI have records of Grime taking Eddie to Tenessee, but I don't have access to them. You have to ask yourself why Grime and Harrison would lie about it? That would be very foolish.
Thankyou for confirming that you haven't seen evidence to support your statement.

Isn't it just the thread to be doing it on too when there are so many members evidencing a stubborn reluctance to accept anecdotal evidence at all.

You yourself have posted

There was no annecdotal evidence connected to the dog alerts in this case, but there was lots of annecdotal evidence;
All the times given in the timeline.
The open window and shutter.
The conversation with Madeleine on the morning of 3rd May.
All reports of suspicious looking men.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12284.msg672965#msg672965

By my count that makes four instances of anecdotal evidence being questionable according to you.  I make it five when considering the dogs dinner concocted from that outlined in your assertive introductory sentence.

Gives you a bit of a quandary when you take the question you have directed at me into account.  Fairs fair though - before I answer you -  I think I am entitled to know how you address the conundrum you have given yourself by your posts on anecdotal witness evidence.

Unless you don't think Grime and Harrison come into that category.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #418 on: January 03, 2022, 07:58:16 PM »
thats your opinion...nothing more..
facts...Grime now describes Eddie as an unreliable dog

the investigation is ignoring the alerts

My opinion is that none of us know why Grime called Eddie, despite the efforts by some to suggest it's significant in some way.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Anectdotal witness evidence
« Reply #419 on: January 03, 2022, 08:00:55 PM »
My opinion is that none of us know why Grime called Eddie, despite the efforts by some to suggest it's significant in some way.
It’s obviously significant whatever the reason.
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