Pamela Fenn

[Carana]

Quote marks got mixed up.

For DCI, re your previous comment:

Ok. Sounds likely dodgy interpreting /note-taking. She didn't know the child in question, so how could she have distinguished her voice amongst others from the floor below? Or even alongside or above her? The direction of sound is often misleading in blocks of flats built even in the early 90s.

Maybe it was Madeleine she heard... but I have a question mark by that one.

[Redblossom]

Seeing as the OPs post was to discredit the idea that Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the police about a child cryng and has been proven wrong, is there any point to this thread any more?

[ferryman]

Seeing as the OPs post was to discredit the idea that Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the police about a child cryng and has been proven wrong, is there any point to this thread any more?

Disproved where?

[Redblossom]

Seeing as the OPs post was to discredit the idea that Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the police about a child cryng and has been proven wrong, is there any point to this thread any more?

Disproved where?

IN HER STATEMENT, do read it without PREJUDICE


If you want to argue Mrs Fenn never made a statement to the police in DETAIL about a child crying and about seeing the family that week,you will have to do miles better than quoting a sentence out of a rag and your own desires for it to be not true for SOME reason, sheesh, I think we are done here

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[AnneGuedes]

Even in modern flats, it's very difficult to localize a sound inside. Sometimes I hear my downstairs neighbour's son as if he were upstairs, in my penthouse.
But there was no child above Mrs Fenn's flat.
Mr and Mrs Oldfield's child was a baby and Mr and Mrs O'Brian's daughters were pretty far. Both the O and the OB entered the flat by the main door.

[ferryman]

Seeing as the OPs post was to discredit the idea that Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the police about a child cryng and has been proven wrong, is there any point to this thread any more?

Disproved where?

IN HER STATEMENT, do read it without PREJUDICE

Without prejudice means reserving the right to withdraw?

[Redblossom]

Without prejudice means reserving the right to withdraw?

It doesnt matter what it means, you have no argument here, zero, zilch, never have and never will, give it up

[John]

Here is a good view of the two apartments.  Mrs Fenns shown lit and showing the location of the ground apartment patio door.

[Carana]

Here is a good view of the two apartments.  Mrs Fenns shown lit and showing the location of the ground apartment patio door.

Nice photo.

I'm not aware of side gates that don't make a noise. How come she never mentioned it (or wasn't asked)?

Any neighbour could have been opening / closing a patio sliding door in their living room.

[Redblossom]

Here is a good view of the two apartments.  Mrs Fenns shown lit and showing the location of the ground apartment patio door.

Nice photo.

I'm not aware of side gates that don't make a noise. How come she never mentioned it (or wasn't asked)?

Any neighbour could have been opening / closing a patio sliding door in their living room.

How far? ive already said the Obriens were four doors down, could the child she heard she was sure was right under her and the patio doors be five doors down. I hardly thnk so, do you?

[DCI]

Seeing as the OPs post was to discredit the idea that Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the police about a child cryng and has been proven wrong, is there any point to this thread any more?

Has it really?


Witness Statement


Date: 2007/05/16


Paolo Jorge Carvaihosa da Costa


Occupation: GNR Officer


He has been a GNR officer since 1996. He is a soldier and works at the Lagos GNR post.

On 3rd May when he was at home, he was contacted by the GNR post commander who asked him to go to P da L.

He arrived at the OC at 00.05 on 4th May having contacted his colleague Nelson Costa who informed him about the situation.

After having been informed ha began to search the perimeter of the tourist complex. First he revised the perimeter alone and was later accompanied by Officer Pimentel. During his time on the scene he did not talk to anyone.

Neither did he enter the apartment from which Madeleine had disappeared. There many people at the scene but nobody particularly drew his attention.

When asked he said that he never saw Robert Murat in all the times he visited the scene.

He does remember however, that on a day he cannot recall, an individual who identified himself as Robert, saying that he was in P da L as a translator helping the PJ, phoned the Lagos post saying:

That some foreign women, who had already been interviewed by the police, had phoned him, telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.
No more is said. Reads, ratifies, signs.

[Carana]

In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

[DCI]

In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.

[Carana]

In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.

Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

[DCI]

In an apartment near to the women... which women? In which apartment block? On which date? Where are these women's statements?

Was this an outcome of Jenny's stand?

It was Mrs Fenn, ringing Murat, or so he say's.  Who else has said a child was crying?

telling him that there was a child crying in an apartment near to them.

Dunno. Who are the "women" (plural) who had already been interviewed?

Spelling mistake I would say. Nothing new there. I presume the foreign woman is Mrs Fenn. She isn't Portuguese, is she?
The only other foreign woman is the locality is Jenny Murat.