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Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #240 on: July 03, 2025, 01:16:23 PM »
I see, April!
Why didn't Vanezis point this out at the onset then?
I dont remember this being claimed in court either?
What about Nevills 'terrific' fight with two bullets in his vertebra, April??

It's readily available and what's more, I believe it was Vanezis who pointed it out initially. I don't believe he ever mentioned Nevill having two bullets in his vertebrae.

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #241 on: July 03, 2025, 02:19:03 PM »
It's readily available and what's more, I believe it was Vanezis who pointed it out initially. I don't believe he ever mentioned Nevill having two bullets in his vertebrae.
The two bullets to Nevills face ended up in the vertebra of his neck, April, and were potentially fatal on their own! See Vanezis trial testimony. This adds to the reason why no terrific struggle took place in the kitchen.
Appart from the face shots, Nevill had a broken arm and shoulder wound, he was at deaths door by the time he reached the kitchen.
All that Nevill could do was sit down and hold up his good arm which Sheila prodded with the rifle [obviously no silencer attached]
Vanezis stated in court that Nevill would have survived for a short time after the two face shots!
One of the shots was interfering with his breathing.
How could Nevill put up a terrific struggle if he couldn't even get breath?
Its just nonsense children!
« Last Edit: July 03, 2025, 02:46:20 PM by Joe Blogs »

Offline The General

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #242 on: July 03, 2025, 03:15:51 PM »
The two bullets to Nevills face ended up in the vertebra of his neck, April, and were potentially fatal on their own! See Vanezis trial testimony. This adds to the reason why no terrific struggle took place in the kitchen.
Appart from the face shots, Nevill had a broken arm and shoulder wound, he was at deaths door by the time he reached the kitchen.
All that Nevill could do was sit down and hold up his good arm which Sheila prodded with the rifle [obviously no silencer attached]
Vanezis stated in court that Nevill would have survived for a short time after the two face shots!
One of the shots was interfering with his breathing.
How could Nevill put up a terrific struggle if he couldn't even get breath?
Its just nonsense children!
You're not supposed to eat the crayons the nice lady gave you.
So you're fully versed in the order of the shots Bamber fired into Nevill, but you still can't explain how Sheila inflicted the injuries ergonomically?
Cherry picking can be added to your logical fallacy count.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #243 on: July 03, 2025, 03:30:31 PM »
You're not supposed to eat the crayons the nice lady gave you.
So you're fully versed in the order of the shots Bamber fired into Nevill, but you still can't explain how Sheila inflicted the injuries ergonomically?
Cherry picking can be added to your logical fallacy count.
Ergonomically?
Can you expand a little there, General?

Offline The General

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #244 on: July 03, 2025, 04:19:48 PM »
Ergonomically?
Can you expand a little there, General?
How did she wield the rifle? The manner in which it was supposedly used. There's plenty of ways, pick one.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #245 on: July 03, 2025, 04:52:46 PM »
The two bullets to Nevills face ended up in the vertebra of his neck, April, and were potentially fatal on their own! See Vanezis trial testimony. This adds to the reason why no terrific struggle took place in the kitchen.
Appart from the face shots, Nevill had a broken arm and shoulder wound, he was at deaths door by the time he reached the kitchen.
All that Nevill could do was sit down and hold up his good arm which Sheila prodded with the rifle [obviously no silencer attached]
Vanezis stated in court that Nevill would have survived for a short time after the two face shots!
One of the shots was interfering with his breathing.
How could Nevill put up a terrific struggle if he couldn't even get breath?
Its just nonsense children!



I'm not going to be coerced into a segway here. You seem particularly well versed in Nevill's wounds, but less so on Sheila's.  The first wound Sheila sustained also grazed her jugular, which means that whilst the sound was mortal, it wasn't immediately fatal. Lifting her arms and having to hold them steady to take a second shot could very possibly have changed that, causing a massive bleed. I wonder if you've ever held a rifle above your head from the barrel end and tried to swing it? Probably no more than you've been up close and personal with an Aga.?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #246 on: July 03, 2025, 05:28:42 PM »
I said Sheila took him by surprise, Vertigo!
I never mentioned sneaking up on him.
I said Nevill found her in the kitchen with the rifle.
So Nevill was standing up when he found her in the kitchen?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #247 on: July 03, 2025, 05:50:05 PM »
I don't think we're going to get anything remotely congruent from ping pong Blogs.
I'm still waiting for any kind of reply to the mode of attack. Probably because every conceivable concept is coming out ludicrous.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Caroline

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #248 on: July 03, 2025, 07:14:52 PM »
Soon after he regained consciousness, Caroline!
With all of his might he pulled himself up onto a chair and dialed JBs number, only to say a few words in a very shaken state! Maybe he was in a rush to call the police also? Before summoning up the strength to get up and stagger upstairs to his fate!

So, doesn't mention being cracked over the head, just "Sheila had got the gun"? Also, this scenario leads to a dead end. It doesn't prove a phone call and it doesn't tell you who the killer is. It's an embarrassing none starter, like someone trying to start a race at the Olympics with a banana!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #249 on: July 03, 2025, 08:01:39 PM »
How did she wield the rifle? The manner in which it was supposedly used. There's plenty of ways, pick one.
Do you mean when Sheila knocked her dad out, General?
Well I cant be specific, but obviously it was the stock/butt that made contact with Nevills head, causing a bit to splinter off the end and cause cracks around the trigger guard.
So take your pick! Either Sheila raised up the rifle and took the butt down on Nevills head or she swung it like a bat.

In my opinion, this had to happen at the onset of the massacre around 12.00, a severe beating later on once Nevill was shot to pieces just doesn't fit! as I have pointed out, he was at deaths door at this time and little threat.
Also, why would the killer prod and whack Nevill with the rifle barrel and then all of a sudden decide to break the butt over Nevills head? Doesn't fit, does it?
Likewise, the killer couldn't bash Nevill over the head first of all in the kitchen, else he would have been knocked out and unable to hold up his arm to be prodded, would he?
No the evidence undoubtably shows that Nevill had the rifle broken over his head at the outset around 12.00 and then recieved the prodding/whacking later on when he was at deaths door and only had one good arm to hold up.
Gee Whizz, its obvious Nevill was slumped in a chair for the whacking to his shoulders anyway, how else could the killer reach? Couldn't be done while Nevill was standing, could it?
No, its pretty clear what the sequence of events were, General, which fit in nicely with the Aga burns, dont you think, sir?

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #250 on: July 03, 2025, 08:08:39 PM »


I'm not going to be coerced into a segway here. You seem particularly well versed in Nevill's wounds, but less so on Sheila's.  The first wound Sheila sustained also grazed her jugular, which means that whilst the sound was mortal, it wasn't immediately fatal. Lifting her arms and having to hold them steady to take a second shot could very possibly have changed that, causing a massive bleed. I wonder if you've ever held a rifle above your head from the barrel end and tried to swing it? Probably no more than you've been up close and personal with an Aga.?
Ha ha! No i've never tried to swing a rifle, Vertigo,and hope I never need to!
But as I was saying to The General it isn't possible to know how Sheila held the rifle, only that the butt made contact with Nevills forehead!
And no, i've never got up close and personal with an Aga!
Oops! Sorry, I see that post was from you April, not Vertigo!
« Last Edit: July 03, 2025, 09:24:05 PM by Joe Blogs »

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #251 on: July 03, 2025, 08:14:31 PM »
So Nevill was standing up when he found her in the kitchen?
Initially,Vertigo! But he may have sat down and tried to calm her down as was the norm, unfortunately Sheila may have been breaking down into a psychotic state just like Freddie Emani or whatever you called him had
witnessed previously. Then bang! She snapped completely!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #252 on: July 03, 2025, 08:25:53 PM »
So, doesn't mention being cracked over the head, just "Sheila had got the gun"? Also, this scenario leads to a dead end. It doesn't prove a phone call and it doesn't tell you who the killer is. It's an embarrassing none starter, like someone trying to start a race at the Olympics with a banana!
But surely it does tell us who the killer was, Caroline! You see, if we accept that the police did not move Nevill, and accept that the Aga burned Nevills back, then this can only mean that the burns were formed much earlier on when Nevill was still alive! Roughly between 12.00-3.00.
Doesn't that scenario rule out Bamber?

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #253 on: July 03, 2025, 09:32:19 PM »
Yes, and its pretty obvious the silencer was never on the rifle either, why would the killer chase Nevill to the kitchen and immediately take it off before proceeding to prod him?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #254 on: July 03, 2025, 09:51:35 PM »
Initially,Vertigo! But he may have sat down and tried to calm her down as was the norm, unfortunately Sheila may have been breaking down into a psychotic state just like Freddie Emani or whatever you called him had
witnessed previously. Then bang! She snapped completely!
You don’t sit down if your daughter is threatening you with the blunt end of a shotgun, giving her an opportunity she wouldn’t have had otherwise to bash you in the head, that’s just ridiculous.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".