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Offline Carana

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #150 on: November 23, 2014, 03:40:37 PM »
I find Silvia Batista's various interviews to be a bit confusing.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #151 on: November 23, 2014, 03:56:57 PM »
Well, come on then...or do I have to spend hours googling again?
P.S.  I reckon you've got inside knowledge of who owns all those private apartments in block 5 to have identified the owner of the grey car.
Four of the T9 saw translatorman that night: DP FP ROB RO.
IIRC one of them in a statement had a tentative recollection of clothing.
PS I have only the same files and press and photos and videos as you do.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #152 on: November 23, 2014, 04:01:10 PM »
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Pagasus please point to the evidence that sister witnesses have changed statements, as I recall it is not only them but six witnesses in total cast doubt over Murat alibi.

The key witnesses are:

• Holidaymaker Jayne Jensen, a 54-year-old businesswoman. In a statement to police she said she saw Mr Murat smoking a cigarette on the street corner opposite the apartment half an hour after Madeleine disappeared.

•The barrister, who has not been named but was on holiday and was pictured in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine vanished. He has given a witness statement that corroborates what Ms Jensen said.

The next evening he and Ms Jensen were talking about the disappearance on an apartment balcony when Mr Murat joined them for a drink.

The barrister has described Mr Murat's behaviour that evening as "odd", saying Mr Murat insisted on going to change his clothes because it had been a long day - when they were certain he had already changed earlier.
-Second witness about his constant clothes change.

Three friends of the McCanns. It is understood they have given statements to police insisting Mr Murat introduced himself to them on the night Madeleine vanished. It is claimed he said: "I am Robert. Can I help in the search?" Mr Murat subsequently acted as a translator between the police and the McCanns up until he was made a suspect.

• Charlotte Pennington, a nanny working at the Ocean Club resort. She claims to have seen Mr Murat in the hours after Madeleine vanished.

A source close to Mrs McCann told the Standard: "Kate has always felt there are questions concerning Murat that need to be answered.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505368/Madeleine-SIX-key-witnesses-cast-doubt-Robert-

Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #153 on: November 23, 2014, 04:12:47 PM »
@Bros Never did I say anyone changed their statements.
To start lets at these two events only:
1. Witness J sees a man at about 10.30am 4th wearing striped shirt and trousers.
2. Witness J sees a man much later on the 4th wearing blue jeans and tshirt who says he has been wearing these same clothes all day.
For now forget all other witnesses, and forget the night of the 3rd, to concentrate only on the 2 events above, ok? ....tbc
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 04:36:51 PM by pegasus »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #154 on: November 23, 2014, 04:22:23 PM »
DP doesn't smoke and the witnesses clearly said they saw Murat smoking

How on earth do you know that ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #155 on: November 23, 2014, 04:31:18 PM »
Silvia Batista's statements don't appear to be very clear.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm


Offline pegasus

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #156 on: November 23, 2014, 04:32:09 PM »
I find Silvia Batista's various interviews to be a bit confusing.
Yes. Initially she said she thought RM was present that night. She suggested to PJ to ask 3 other witnesses present who she was sure would confirm this. All 3 witnesses (who BTW unlike SB did actually know what RM looked like) said RM was definitely not there.
I find the 3 people who did actually know what he looks like are correct, and one who did not know what he looks like (except retrospectively) to be honest but mistaken.

Offline misty

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #157 on: November 23, 2014, 04:40:52 PM »
How on earth do you know that ?

Do you believe that DP would be in a doorway smoking a cigarette (if he was a smoker) whilst the rest of the group were running around searching for the missing child of his close friend?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #158 on: November 23, 2014, 04:46:51 PM »
If in doubt answer a question with a couple more!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPqwUITSUT8
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline jassi

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #159 on: November 23, 2014, 04:48:00 PM »
Do you believe that DP would be in a doorway smoking a cigarette (if he was a smoker) whilst the rest of the group were running around searching for the missing child of his close friend?

Who can tell what people will do in times of stress.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #160 on: November 23, 2014, 04:51:00 PM »
@ Pegasus

There are numerous points regarding her various statements that don't seem clear to me. She may have been exhausted and the GNR/ PJ officers may not have accurately reported what she'd said.

No idea.




Offline faithlilly

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #161 on: November 23, 2014, 05:05:31 PM »
Who can tell what people will do in times of stress.

You beat me to it jassi.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #162 on: November 23, 2014, 05:12:46 PM »
Who can tell what people will do in times of stress.

Light up a Capstan Full Strength?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #163 on: November 23, 2014, 05:17:33 PM »
is there any statement by murat in the released files

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #164 on: November 23, 2014, 06:41:52 PM »
is there any statement by murat in the released files

We thought you had read all the available evidence? You keep telling us that. 


WITNESS STATEMENT OF ARGUIDO: ROBERT MURAT

Processo, Volume V, pages 1170-1178

WITNESS STATEMENT OF ARGUIDO: ROBERT MURAT

Date: 2007/05/14; Time: 10:00;  Location: DIC Portimao
Officer: Joao C. and Luis P., Inspectors

I'll leave you to find it  8(0(*
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey