The CCTV camera which Amaral claimed captured the image of the man carrying Madeleine.

[John]

The CCTV camera nest.





Here is a close up of the camera which is in fact two cameras.

One is a 360 degree and the other directional.



This thread also explores the camera issue.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2657.15

[AnneGuedes]

Here is a close up of the camera which is in fact two cameras.

One is a 360 degree and the other directional.

There are 3 cameras then : one on the wall and two on the mast ?
What is a 360 degree camera ? Isn't "directional" one you can move from your monitoring desk ?
I'm still reading the 2005 report on the social impact of those cameras. People feel secure up to a certain point. If something happens, that feeling decreases a lot.

[John]

Camera on a wall? 

[Myster]

Thanks John.. missed that thread first time round !

The right hand cylindrical one looks fixed & focused on the garage entrance, whilst the second glass/plastic encased one could be wide ranging and as you say controlled to rotate from a security desk... or automatically set to rotate over a time period to cover a broader area.

Don't see any on a wall Anne !

[John]

Thanks John.. missed that thread first time round !

The right hand cylindrical one looks fixed & focused on the garage entrance, whilst the second glass/plastic encased one could be wide ranging and as you say controlled to rotate from a security desk... or automatically set to rotate over a time period to cover a broader area.

Don't see any on a wall Anne !

Unless Anne means that yellow domed thingy on top of the pillar which I assume is an infra red detector for the automatic gates.

[AnneGuedes]

Camera on a wall?

I got it wrong. I didn't see the mast on that picture and thought the camera was on the wall..

Now, finally, I understand how it was possible that the 360° camera (constantly turning to sweep all around) eventually could catch the rua da Escola Primaria. As this street was very dark (when I was there in 2011), the best could have been, as Gilet suggested, a time indication.

[AnneGuedes]

Unless Anne means that yellow domed thingy on top of the pillar which I assume is an infra red detector for the automatic gates.

I meant the thing which the arrow points to. I didn't see the mast and thought it was on the wall !

[John]

That's an excellent point Anne which I think is lost on us looking at daytime photos.   There is a tall 10m overhead street light at the junction with other 2.5m street lights on one side of the road but the best I think Dr Amaral could have achieved from CCTV would have been the silhouette of a man carrying a child, a time stamp and little more.

[Myster]

Unless Anne means that yellow domed thingy on top of the pillar which I assume is an infra red detector for the automatic gates.

Looks like it is some type of IR thingumajig for the gate (or just a decorative uplighter with a yellow shade)

[pathfinder73]

That's an excellent point Anne which I think is lost on us looking at daytime photos.   There is a tall 10m overhead street light at the junction with other 2.5m street lights on one side of the road but the best I think Dr Amaral could have achieved from CCTV would have been the silhouette of a man carrying a child, a time stamp and little more.

Agreed but it would be important to see further details e.g. hair style/length, the jacket the man was wearing to possibly match with known images etc.

[AnneGuedes]

Looks like it is some type of IR thingumajig for the gate (or just a decorative uplighter with a yellow shade)

I had to google thingumajig, but what's IR for ? InfraRed ? And then why thingumajig ? I'm lost.

[John]

I had to google thingumajig, but what's IR for ? InfraRed ? And then why thingumajig ? I'm lost.

Sorry Anne, my apologies for using slang terms.  A thingy is a quick term used by us Brits to describe an object on the spur of the moment when you have a sudden brain fritz and forget exactly what you were gonna say. A thingumajig basically the same.

[Myster]

Sorry Anne, my apologies for using slang terms.  A thingy is a quick term used to describe an object on the spur of the moment when you have a sudden brain fritz and forget exactly what you were gonna say. A thingumajig basically the same.

Happens to me all the time... particularly when I type faster then I can think !!!

You'll have Anne googling "brain fritz" next... LOL!

[AnneGuedes]

Sorry Anne, my apologies for using slang terms.  A thingy is a quick term used by us Brits to describe an object on the spur of the moment when you have a sudden brain fritz and forget exactly what you were gonna say. A thingumajig basically the same.

I see, like "truc", "machin" in French (the Portuguese would just change the genre of the word for thing, coisa > coiso).
Thank you, John !

[AnneGuedes]

Happens to me all the time... particularly when I type faster then I can think !!!

You'll have Anne googling "brain fritz" next... LOL!

Gosh, it didn't pass my mind before I read your post ! I imagined it meant "a lapse of memory". But then I googled and all I found was Hans & Fritz brain teasers...