The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.

[Redblossom]

Wrong.  Martin Grime was on retirement leave when he went to PdL.

Five months and £93,000 to find a coconut shell.  Good work if you can get it.

More propaganda? Oh well, enjoy

[Benice]

Contaminated clothes in the middle of uncontaminated ones don't originate a scent cone. This is why the clothes were deployed in the garage.
Passing near something without alerting doesn't necessarily eliminate a dog in tests. What does is alerting falsely.

I disagree.   If Eddie could detect odour standing outside the closed door of a car which was coming from inside the car  - he should have had no difficulty detecting odour from clothing which may have been in drawers in the villa  - drawers which, by no stretch of the imagination, can be as securely closed as car doors are.  Car doors have rubber seals on them to ensure no water can get in.

He failed to alert to any clothing in the villa.  The same clothing which it was later claimed had got cadavescent on them.  Fact.

[Redblossom]

I disagree.   If Eddie could detect odour standing outside the closed door of a car which was coming from inside the car  - he should have had no difficulty detecting odour from clothing which may have been in drawers in the villa  - drawers which, by no stretch of the imagination, can be as securely closed as car doors are.  Car doors have rubber seals on them to ensure no water can get in.

He failed to alert to any clothing in the villa.  The same clothing which it was later claimed had got cadavescent on them.  Fact.

Maybe  they were in the washing machine

Those doors have such strong seals dont they

Jon Corner did tell us in Panorama didnt  he that the PJ took clothes out of the washng machine

A possiblity to explain it? You with such an open mind on them all should agree


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[ferryman]

I disagree.   If Eddie could detect odour standing outside the closed door of a car which was coming from inside the car  - he should have had no difficulty detecting odour from clothing which may have been in drawers in the villa  - drawers which, by no stretch of the imagination, can be as securely closed as car doors are.  Car doors have rubber seals on them to ensure no water can get in.

He failed to alert to any clothing in the villa.  The same clothing which it was later claimed had got cadavescent on them.  Fact.

Grime was quizzed about cross-contamination in his rogatory interview.

He replied that where any object with a death scent comes into contact with another object or surface, cross-contamination is immediate!

Why, then, oh why, did he brazenly ignore the principle?

[Redblossom]

I'm unsure if that's conclusively proved.

But I think the inference is perfectly reasonable.

ETA:  No quarrel with the second part of your post: true!

No, not true, false

Many remains were found including bones and teeth, and undoubtedly remnant scent with no physical evidence as well, these are the facts, repeating the coconut  canard is just embarrassing and pointless

But do enjoy  your false groundhog  day too

[AnneGuedes]

More propaganda? Oh well, enjoy

[AnneGuedes]

No, not true, false

Many remains were found including bones and teeth, and undoubtedly remnant scent with no physical evidence as well, these are the facts, repeating the coconut  canard is just embarrassing and pointless

But do enjoy  your false groundhog  day too

Do trolls enjoy to troll around ? If so, then it's ok.

[Eleanor]

I am a retired police offer, previously at the service of the South Yorkshire police. Between August 1-8, 2007, and while working for the South Yorkshire police, I collaborated with the Judicial Police, Portugal, as regards their Operations Task Force.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm


He went to PDL as an employee of SYP, not self employed

Do you think  he was moonlighting on his holiday?

 

Perhaps you have his bank account statements though that prove the PJ paid him rather than SYP

So South Yorkshire Police got the fees, did they.  Funny that they didn't charge anything like that which was quoted for the use of Eddie and Keela in Portugal.

[Eleanor]

I'm unsure if that's conclusively proved.

But I think the inference is perfectly reasonable.

ETA:  No quarrel with the second part of your post: true!

See Red's post above.  "I am a Retired Police Officer."

[Redblossom]

Do trolls enjoy to troll around ? If so, then it's ok.

Cant  stand falsities peddled as fact, mistakenly is ok, deliberately its not

[Redblossom]

See Red's post above.  "I am a Retired Police Officer."

Yes he was when he said it in 2008!


 

Youre best actually reading whole of posts and links

[Redblossom]

So South Yorkshire Police got the fees, did they.  Funny that they didn't charge anything like that which was quoted for the use of Eddie and Keela in Portugal.

Martin Grime as an independent in Jersey charged less in daily fees than SYP charged the PJ for PDL, so wrong again

Eta

Oh and yes they must have as they were the force deployng the dogs at the time! Its  all there in black and white, not your accusatory grey!

[Eleanor]

Martin Grime as an independent in Jersey charged less in daily fees than SYP charged the PJ for PDL, so wrong again

You didn't answer my question.  Did SYP get the fees from Portugal?

[Redblossom]

You didn't answer my question.  Did SYP get the fees from Portugal?

This is called backtracking and slithering. You made the claim to begin with,  you prove they didnt.

In fact, provide any credible link to show MG was working freelance in PDL.

Bet you cant, but its ok you may have been misled.

Eta

Or mistaken

 

[Serendipity]

Its a wonder that Mr Grme would deliberately manipulate the dogs whllst beng videoed for all the world to see

 

BTW please note PDL wasnt his first job as a self employed handler, rather his last job whllst working for South Yorkshire police, it is in his statement, which can be found in the files.  So please dont  repeat that falsehood and infer he fraudulently made the dogs alert, that would be absolutely stupid and of no value to him or his reputation or portfolio

As for costs in Jersey, he was there for nearly five months, so the fees did add up, nothing wrong with that, the whole investigation cost over 20 million, drop in the ocean for such an important element of it!

 

They really can't get anything right, can they?  Martin had not even decided if he was going to retire from SYP at the point he was in PDL.  He was still considering his options.  And you are spot on re Jersey too, in fact once it was clear he was going to be there for longer than originally thought, he offered to discount the daily rates but his offer was turned down.