The Portuguese Police thought the dogs were 100% accurate.

[Mr Gray]

I didnt forget anythng, try again and this time dont cherry  pick but include my whole post, thanks so much in advance

more desperation..first you say grime didn't say it..then I show you that you posted it

[Redblossom]

Now you show your desperation..attacking the poster

Well, apart from the obvious pot kettle black et al,and the customary dummy spitting,  dont worry dear, not desperate about anything at all, Im not the one writhng away frustrated here am I ? Why dont  you go away and search all your posts and count up the percentage of whch includes  a derogatory remark or insult, its quite high you know....you would be better off being more civil


 

[Lyall]

more desperation...all   these quotes were made LIVE on tv...don't read the tabloids

Of course you don't

[Mr Gray]

Well, apart from the obvious pot kettle black et al,and the customary dummy spitting,  dont worry dear, not desperate about anything at all, Im not the one writhng away frustrated here am I ? Why dont  you go away and search all your posts and count up the percentage of whch includes  a derogatory remark or insult, its quite high you know....you would be better off being more civil


 

 Once more trying to avoid debate by attacking the poster..

[Carew]

First...if there  were no dog alerts...it would be a possibility that maddie died in the appt...bringing in the dogs  adds nothing as Grime has not told us how reliable these alerts are...Im not interested what posters on this forum imagine...its what Grime says that counts..

secondly if posters are going to post their opinions as fact...ie the dogs have never made a false alert..  now that is dishonest    ......then it is right to challenge such a statement..

You must understand that posters can have genuine opinions based on the evidence. in my opinion the mccanns were not neglectful and were certainly not culpable

Thank you for the considered response ........

.......but my point was that trying to pass off insidious propaganda as an exercise in logic and reasoning is imo dishonest, cynical and manipulative.........as is the emotional blackmail of the bleatings about "empathy with Kate & Gerry"

(with the conclusion invariably inferred that were it not for intellectual or moral shortcomings we would all see the light! )

Anyway, the thread has moved on apace and this is off topic, but I appreciate your points.

[Redblossom]

more desperation..first you say grime didn't say it..then I show you that you posted it

You must be so very confused, I didnt post anything  of the sort, you did, still awaiting your link to back up your claim

[Mr Gray]

Of course you don't

you probably think everyone reads the tabloids

[Redblossom]

Once more trying to avoid debate by attacking the poster..

not avoiding, challenging and you are not exactly coming up trumps anywhere here

[Mr Gray]

not avoiding, challenging and you are not exactly coming up trumps anywhere here

I've just supplied the link and the quote you reckoned I would have to magic into existence

[stephen25000]

Once more trying to avoid debate by attacking the poster..

Why do you say that davel, when everyone on here knows only too well, how often you attack other posters and get away with it.

[Redblossom]

I've just supplied the link and the quote you reckoned I would have to magic into existence

You must not understand then
Thats OK
YOUR claim is that Grime said the dogs are valueless evidentially...it is  patently untrue...and yes something you seem to have magicked into reality because you "reckon so"


My post 321 here proves it and it was in this very same thread but you still  continue to twist and put words into Grimes mouth, do read, explains it all nicely


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1513.msg129429#msg129429

[Mr Gray]

You must not understand then
Thats OK
YOUR claim is that Grime said the dogs are valueless evidentially...is is patently untrue...and yes something you seem to have magicked into reality because you "reckon so"


My post 321 here proves it and it was in this very same thread but you still  continue to twist and put words into Grimes mouth, do read, explains it all nicely


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1513.msg129429#msg129429

Grime said without corroboration the evrd alerts had no evidential value...are you saying grime did not say that?

[Lyall]

you probably think everyone reads the tabloids

You comment on the articles and then develop arguments based on the content of the articles, so I assume you have read the articles.

But the crucial point is the arguments are based on the articles, not on the official words of the police (Portuguese and British).

[Mr Gray]

You comment on the articles and then develop arguments based on the content of the articles, so I assume you have read the articles.

But the crucial point is the arguments are based on the articles, not on the official words of the police (Portuguese and British).

I don't read the tabloids full stop...my arguments are based on written statements..grime......and live television statements redwood, amarals lawyer

[Mr Gray]

Now the backtracking and altering of previous claims starts....


Zzzz You wont mind if I give this waste of time a miss will you? Thanks. But you carry on.

not at all..so now you accept that grime said the evrd alerts have no evidential value