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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #405 on: April 22, 2016, 01:35:37 PM »
How do you equate 88% & the distance, as detailed in the statistics above, with the Smithman sighting?


If death happened and she was discovered close to the crime scene then time of death could be established. Maybe the perps didn't want that to happen because time of death can lead you straight to them.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #406 on: April 22, 2016, 02:07:12 PM »
If death happened and she was discovered close to the crime scene then time of death could be established. Maybe the perps didn't want that to happen because time of death can lead you straight to them.

If that was the case, then the perp would have locked the apartment doors & carried out no checks, maintaining a consistent alibi at the bar.

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #407 on: April 22, 2016, 02:36:17 PM »
This is an interesting read - David Guilfoyle murder - start at page 60. http://library.college.police.uk/docs/J_Homicide_MII/J_Homicide_10.2.pdf

Despite knowing where the victim was buried, it took a tremendous amount of effort to locate his remains in a shallow grave & there was no alert  by the cadaver dogs.
Very interesting reading. The grave was hand-dug (no spade!) and covered by only about 6 inches of soil. It was discovered about 7 and a half years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #408 on: April 22, 2016, 02:39:11 PM »
If that was the case, then the perp would have locked the apartment doors & carried out no checks, maintaining a consistent alibi at the bar.

If death happened it could have been established at a time before they left for the tapas bar.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #409 on: April 22, 2016, 02:40:33 PM »
I imagine you would want a day or two between death and discovery in order to obscure an accurate time of death.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #410 on: April 22, 2016, 02:54:39 PM »
If death happened it could have been established at a time before they left for the tapas bar.

Death must have occurred before they left for the Tapas Bar if you accept Eddie's alerts are directly attributable to Madeleine, thus ruling out a woke & wandered scenario.
How do you therefore account for the DCS saying the police had a "much fuller understanding" of the circumstances surrounding Madeleine's disappearance AFTER interviewing POI in Portugal?

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #411 on: April 22, 2016, 10:18:15 PM »
Death must have occurred before they left for the Tapas Bar if you accept Eddie's alerts are directly attributable to Madeleine,... (snip)
IMO the correctness of that hypothesis depends on what basic assumptions one starts off from.

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #412 on: April 22, 2016, 10:21:23 PM »
Snip) ....thus ruling out a woke & wandered scenario (snip)
IMO if Eddie's alerts at that property are relevant then they rule out the wandered onto street scenario.

Offline mercury

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #413 on: April 22, 2016, 10:28:09 PM »
This is an interesting read - David Guilfoyle murder - start at page 60. http://library.college.police.uk/docs/J_Homicide_MII/J_Homicide_10.2.pdf

Despite knowing where the victim was buried, it took a tremendous amount of effort to locate his remains in a shallow grave & there was no alert  by the cadaver dogs.

Ive read it now, police and dogs were obviously taken to the wrong place. What is the relevance to this case?

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #414 on: April 22, 2016, 10:28:55 PM »
(snip) How do you therefore account for the DCS saying the police had a "much fuller understanding" of the circumstances surrounding Madeleine's disappearance AFTER interviewing POI in Portugal?
Misty do you mean this which was said by MR ?
"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing ..."

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #415 on: April 22, 2016, 10:39:24 PM »
Ive read it now, police and dogs were obviously taken to the wrong place. What is the relevance to this case?
Yes the perp's initial directions given from jail were inadequate. And his directions later when taken to the area were IMO inaccurate because in the 7+ years since the crime the terrain had changed from thick woodland to fairly open.

Offline misty

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #416 on: April 22, 2016, 11:22:35 PM »
Misty do you mean this which was said by MR ?
"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing ..."

Probably. I thought I'd read an updated version by MD a few days back but must be mistaken.

Offline pegasus

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #417 on: April 22, 2016, 11:33:29 PM »
Probably. I thought I'd read an updated version by MD a few days back but must be mistaken.
Quite possible you did Misty. This from the Sun recently quotes MD "The police chief admitted detectives did not have a 'full understanding' of what happened to Madeleine or why she was taken" maybe implies they think they have some understanding?
 

Offline misty

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #418 on: April 22, 2016, 11:49:11 PM »
Quite possible you did Misty. This from the Sun recently quotes MD "The police chief admitted detectives did not have a 'full understanding' of what happened to Madeleine or why she was taken" maybe implies they think they have some understanding?

That was probably the one (my NewsNow links are playing up).

We roughly know the "when", SY refer to the "what" & the "why" but there is a deafening silence on the "who".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #419 on: April 23, 2016, 01:25:48 AM »
Death must have occurred before they left for the Tapas Bar if you accept Eddie's alerts are directly attributable to Madeleine, thus ruling out a woke & wandered scenario.
How do you therefore account for the DCS saying the police had a "much fuller understanding" of the circumstances surrounding Madeleine's disappearance AFTER interviewing POI in Portugal?

That would lead to a new arguido. Somebody who was saved or had great fortune because Goncalo Amaral didn't see a statement given in May 2007.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 01:30:00 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.