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Redblossom

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #240 on: December 11, 2013, 11:15:58 PM »
Those three items were afterwards taken away IIRC in the box labelled "living area" (maybe I am wrong?)
So where are those 3 items in the villa video of the living area?
IMO a small red t-shirt and a white top are in that pile.
You can even see a white detail IMO on the red item, and this fits the white plane of the design.

You can see what you want to see if you look hard enough....no one except  the handler can answer these questions,

Nite nite

AnneGuedes

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #241 on: December 12, 2013, 12:02:04 AM »

On the basis that Eddie signalled the toy, KM was effectively accused of lying when she said the toy was on the bed when she looked in the room.
Where did you find that strange accusation and who made it ?

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #242 on: December 12, 2013, 02:43:27 AM »
For example in Mr A's book (which takes as fact that Eddie signalled the toy), Ch11 disbelieves that she found the toy on the bed, and the hypothesis of Ch16 implies that the toy would have been discovered in the lounge.
P.S. It is the same in the files, which claim the toy was signalled, and the child room was not.
(IMO the toy was not signalled, and she found the toy on the bed exactly as stated).
« Last Edit: December 12, 2013, 03:04:28 AM by pegasus »

stephen25000

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #243 on: December 12, 2013, 07:59:36 AM »
Whats wrong with being a vegal

Never heard of it.

Is it a congenital condition ? 8)-)))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #244 on: December 12, 2013, 09:12:26 AM »
Never heard of it.

Is it a congenital condition ? 8)-)))

No its similar to vegan but you can eat sausages

AnneGuedes

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #245 on: December 12, 2013, 11:02:54 AM »
For example in Mr A's book (which takes as fact that Eddie signalled the toy), Ch11 disbelieves that she found the toy on the bed, and the hypothesis of Ch16 implies that the toy would have been discovered in the lounge.
I don't find any of these suggestions in GA's book. The PJ found strange the position of the toy on the bed, not the fact the toy was on the bed. I wonder how the child could get or be taken out of the bed without that toy falling down. And if so why putting it again on the pillow ?
They say the toy must have been in contact with a body. I don't think so, I think this toy's odour, like the car key, is cross contamination.

Offline Anna

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #246 on: December 12, 2013, 12:52:35 PM »
I don't find any of these suggestions in GA's book. The PJ found strange the position of the toy on the bed, not the fact the toy was on the bed. I wonder how the child could get or be taken out of the bed without that toy falling down. And if so why putting it again on the pillow ?
They say the toy must have been in contact with a body. I don't think so, I think this toy's odour, like the car key, is cross contamination.

I agree Anne, that if any Cadaver scent, was found on these items it was cross contamination, which would also explain scent being found in the car.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Carana

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #247 on: December 12, 2013, 01:25:59 PM »
I'm not totally convinced that she was necessarily taken out of her bed. She might have got up to go to the loo, for example. I'm not aware that the PJ forensic people checked the bathroom, the kitchen, or the parents' bedroom. 

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #248 on: December 12, 2013, 01:58:25 PM »
(Changed post to use portuguese version of book)
In A Verdade Da Mentira it says the toy is "on" the bentwood chair.
"em cima de"
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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #249 on: December 13, 2013, 09:56:39 PM »
Eddie stands on back legs and sniffs left end of top surface of cupboard.   
He gets down and does not alert.
He stands on back legs again and this time sniffs halfway along the top surface of cupboard.
He sniffs directly at a pile, then he raises his nose slightly higher to sniff the pile again (to confirm?).
He gets down and immediatly barks.
What do all of you think is in this pile pointed to by Eddie's right paw?
http://i.imgur.com/597EM34.jpg
« Last Edit: December 13, 2013, 09:58:51 PM by pegasus »

Redblossom

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #250 on: December 13, 2013, 10:07:44 PM »
Eddie stands on back legs and sniffs left end of top surface of cupboard.   
He gets down and does not alert.
He stands on back legs again and this time sniffs halfway along the top surface of cupboard.
He sniffs directly at a pile, then he raises his nose slightly higher to sniff the pile again (to confirm?).
He gets down and immediatly barks.
What do all of you think is in this pile pointed to by Eddie's right paw?
http://i.imgur.com/597EM34.jpg

Looks like an intray or a pile of papers, certainly not a bunch of pressed to oblivion clothes....to me, anyway..is this the pile you were talking about yesterday?

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #251 on: December 13, 2013, 10:19:22 PM »
The lower items in pile could be clothes IMO but I might be wrong.
This pile or something near it on top of the cupboard is the last thing Eddie sniffs before he barks.
Are the vehicle keys away from the house at this time?

Redblossom

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #252 on: December 13, 2013, 11:16:19 PM »
The lower items in pile could be clothes IMO but I might be wrong.
This pile or something near it on top of the cupboard is the last thing Eddie sniffs before he barks.
Are the vehicle keys away from the house at this time?

IIRC Gery drove out that evening, I will  have to findthe back up tomorrow....sti,, I dint think theres any clothes where you see them

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #253 on: December 14, 2013, 06:42:11 PM »
Red book and papers.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #254 on: December 14, 2013, 11:49:51 PM »
After Eddies search the clothes etc in the living area were individually photographed on a sheet on the villa tiled floor and packed in a box. Each pile of clothes preserves its order (top down) in the photos because thats how they photographed them, top item first.
You can start with the the pillows on the table thats the easiest, then find the other items.
The pile Eddie sniffs contains going from top downwards (see photo immediately above this post) :
a printed sheet of white A4 paper (possibly search documentation)
grey cloth item
white cloth item
red cloth item with white design detail visible
white cloth item
white cloth item
Those 5 cloth items in the pile match exactly the first five clothing photos, in the same order.
(There are more piles of ironed folded clothing on that surface you can work out too)
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