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Offline Eleanor

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #390 on: October 25, 2015, 09:59:46 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on October 25, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
I wonder why they had buckets and spades? I thought they only went to the beach once and ate a quick ice cream and came back. Perhaps the creche asked parents to provide them when they took the children to the beach.

What?  Why wouldn't they have buckets and spades?
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stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #391 on: October 25, 2015, 10:01:23 AM »
Quote from: davel on October 25, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
is that the only way you can reply...I have reported your post


Haven't you got the message yet ?

They are clutching at straws.

..and without an abductor or abductors, where does it leave the mccanns ?
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Offline Benice

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #392 on: October 25, 2015, 10:11:10 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on October 25, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
I wonder why they had buckets and spades? I thought they only went to the beach once and ate a quick ice cream and came back. Perhaps the creche asked parents to provide them when they took the children to the beach.

You are talking with the benefit of hindsight GU.  The McCanns would have no idea what the weather was going to be like in the coming week.     In my experience buying buckets and spades is something done on day one of the holiday - in anticipation of visits to the beach.

I can't believe anyone would try to turn the children's 'buckets and spades' into yet another stick to beat the McCanns with.  Do you agree?

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #393 on: October 25, 2015, 10:47:54 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on October 25, 2015, 09:58:00 AM
I wonder why they had buckets and spades? I thought they only went to the beach once and ate a quick ice cream and came back. Perhaps the creche asked parents to provide them when they took the children to the beach.
you wonder why children who were on the holiday at the sea side had buckets and spades?  Seriously??
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #394 on: October 25, 2015, 11:05:06 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on October 25, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
What?  Why wouldn't they have buckets and spades?

Indeed Eleanor. I mean what if their parents had found out when they got there that thee crèche couldn't look after their little ones all day ? Buckets and spaides would certainly have been needed then.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #395 on: October 25, 2015, 11:22:53 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on October 25, 2015, 11:05:06 AM
Indeed Eleanor. I mean what if their parents had found out when they got there that thee crèche couldn't look after their little ones all day ? Buckets and spaides would certainly have been needed then.
Not lengths of rope and a tether instead?  Surely those would have been more useful.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2015, 11:29:44 AM by Alfred R Jones »
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #396 on: October 25, 2015, 11:42:32 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on October 25, 2015, 09:28:45 AM
You can hark on until the end of time about abduction tale.

It won't change a thing.

Indeed stephen, Not only that- SY following that line and having found nothing substantial, by that I mean produced a witness or confessor, we can readily assume that is it only one of many theories, and I am sure SY know this! They were only told to have  a review, turned into an investigation with no autonomy or legal rights to enforce this.

PJ still hold cards..and have better local knowledge of the area and local criminal activity. SY should have gone in with a blank sheet/open mind. They may have got furher.IMO
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #397 on: October 25, 2015, 11:54:10 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on October 25, 2015, 10:01:23 AM

Haven't you got the message yet ?

They are clutching at straws.

..and without an abductor or abductors, where does it leave the mccanns ?

it leaves them as not suspects
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #398 on: October 25, 2015, 12:14:33 PM »
Quote from: davel on October 25, 2015, 11:54:10 AM
it leaves them as not suspects

They are not suspects in that line of enquiry..abduction. SY do not suspect they abducted heir daughter fair enough!
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Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #399 on: October 25, 2015, 08:08:24 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on October 25, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
What?  Why wouldn't they have buckets and spades?
BTW circled in this photo are the plastic buckets and spades being carried away from the apartment about 36 or so hours after the alarm. On the other hand could not be more radically different to MWT theory, which is: woke, wandered onto Rua Martins, abducted from there.   
« Last Edit: October 25, 2015, 08:57:17 PM by pegasus »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #400 on: October 26, 2015, 06:55:18 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on October 25, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
What?  Why wouldn't they have buckets and spades?

Normally buckets and spades are bought on the first trip to the beach to build sand pies and castles with Mummy and Daddy. There didn't seem to be much time set aside for that on this holiday.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #401 on: October 26, 2015, 07:10:44 AM »
Could we start the day On Topic, please.

This is not a request.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #402 on: October 29, 2015, 08:36:59 PM »
It is a theory wworthwhile pursuing woke and wandered.

The parents behaved in a way that they thought this was the case.

Gerry noticed the door was more open that it was, became suspicious so entered the room and saw his children sleeping, did he think at that point one of the children woke up and went to look for them? Later he claims it may have been the abductor who opened the door.

Kate noticed the door was moved since her last time she moved it  she looked in and couldnt see her daughter so she searched the flat thinking she had woke and wandered into her parents bed?

Seems strange they then deny this could happen- and an abductor is brought into the flat via a jemmied window.
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stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #403 on: October 29, 2015, 09:27:23 PM »
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on October 29, 2015, 08:36:59 PM
It is a theory wworthwhile pursuing woke and wandered.

The parents behaved in a way that they thought this was the case.

Gerry noticed the door was more open that it was, became suspicious so entered the room and saw his children sleeping, did he think at that point one of the children woke up and went to look for them? Later he claims it may have been the abductor who opened the door.

Kate noticed the door was moved since her last time she moved it  she looked in and couldnt see her daughter so she searched the flat thinking she had woke and wandered into her parents bed?

Seems strange they then deny this could happen- and an abductor is brought into the flat via a jemmied window.

Now, that's magic. 8)-)))
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Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #404 on: October 29, 2015, 10:47:22 PM »
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on October 29, 2015, 08:36:59 PM
It is a theory wworthwhile pursuing woke and wandered.

The parents behaved in a way that they thought this was the case.

Gerry noticed the door was more open that it was, became suspicious so entered the room and saw his children sleeping, did he think at that point one of the children woke up and went to look for them? Later he claims it may have been the abductor who opened the door.

Kate noticed the door was moved since her last time she moved it  she looked in and couldnt see her daughter so she searched the flat thinking she had woke and wandered into her parents bed?

Seems strange they then deny this could happen- and an abductor is brought into the flat via a jemmied window.

The first action to take when a child goes missing is to search the immediate area.  Nine times out of ten the child will be found ... on the occasion the child is not there ...

What do you suggest the searchers should do ... sit around and wait for the child to wander back?
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