Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.

[G-Unit]

If (hypothetically) the Portuguese had dogs trained to track the (individual and unique!) scent why would they have wasted time and resources deploying dogs without that ability or training?

They were search and rescue dogs. Used to look for anyone under a bush or whatever. The 'unique scent' ended at a lamppost.

[Angelo222]

I don't think there can be too much doubt Carana has won the semantic argument hook, line and sinker.

I confess, my regret is the remit isn't limited to abduction.

There's literally nothing else to consider ....

That's not strictly true so I don't know why you still peddle that untruth.  The woke and wandered theory is publicly supported by many former detectives as it represents a real possibility unless you believe she woke, wandered and was then abducted?

[ferryman]

That's not strictly true so I don't know why you still peddle that untruth.  The woke and wandered theory is publicly supported by many former detectives as it represents a real possibility unless you believe she woke, wandered and was then abducted?

Woke and wandered was discounted by Joao Carlos in the final PJ report.

And by the prosecutors

(sic)

The parents didn't even represent the realisation of the fact, they trusted that everything would go well, as it had gone on the previous evenings, thus not equating, nor was it demanded from them, the possibility of the occurrence of an abduction of any of the children that were in their respective apartments.

[slartibartfast]

Woke and wandered was discounted by Joao Carlos in the final PJ report.

And by the prosecutors

(sic)

The parents didn't even represent the realisation of the fact, they trusted that everything would go well, as it had gone on the previous evenings, thus not equating, nor was it demanded from them, the possibility of the occurrence of an abduction of any of the children that were in their respective apartments.

That doesn't make sense.

[G-Unit]

Woke and wandered was discounted by Joao Carlos in the final PJ report.

He describes it as a remote hypothesis, but were they correct to make that assumption? If the child gate was open it's perfectly possible, She allegedly left the apartment twice every day by that route;

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically – and after, because of an accident or by a third person intervention, she would have disappeared.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

[ferryman]

He describes it as a remote hypothesis, but were they correct to make that assumption? If the child gate was open it's perfectly possible, She allegedly left the apartment twice every day by that route;

As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely physically – and after, because of an accident or by a third person intervention, she would have disappeared.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

The childgate was closed.

Read Kate's book.

[stephen25000]

The childgate was closed.

Read Kate's book.

Need I remind you again.

Merely because something is written in a book, if doesn't make it true.

[ferryman]

Need I remind you again.

Merely because something is written in a book, if doesn't make it true.

Need I remind you again.

Merely because you disbelieve it.

Doesn't make it untrue.

[slartibartfast]

The childgate was closed.

Read Kate's book.

...and a precocious nearly 4 year old.

[stephen25000]

Need I remind you again.

Merely because you disbelieve it.

Doesn't make it untrue.

As in an accident in the apartment, or Madeleine walking out ?

[G-Unit]

The childgate was closed.

Read Kate's book.

The childgate may or may not have been closed, we don't know. Some may choose to believe the things written in Kate McCann's book, others may not.

There is also the possibility of an active child climbing over the gate or knowing how to open and close it. She must have watched the adults doing it quite a few times during the holiday. If she was physically incapable of opening a closed childgate what do we make of Kate's 'so she can find us' statement?

The main argument offered by the parents against woke and wandered was the open window/shutters, which the child couldn't have done, and which were seen only by them.

[pegasus]

They were search and rescue dogs. Used to look for anyone under a bush or whatever. The 'unique scent' ended at a lamppost.

IMO we don't know which of the two lampposts. One is outside that carpark next to Rua Martins, the other is in that carpark.

[G-Unit]

IMO we don't know which of the two lampposts. One is outside that carpark next to Rua Martins, the other is in that carpark.

The witness doesn't mention the dog entering the car park. The one in the car park is quite a long way in, at the start of the path leading to the main reception.

next to the wall of block 6, once the street was crossed, turned right and headed towards the area of the contiguous car park. More specifically (the dog) went next to a lamp post, smelling the ground there.]
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

[sadie]

The witness doesn't mention the dog entering the car park. The one in the car park is quite a long way in, at the start of the path leading to the main reception.

next to the wall of block 6, once the street was crossed, turned right and headed towards the area of the contiguous car park. More specifically (the dog) went next to a lamp post, smelling the ground there.]
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

That sounds like the lampost on Rua Martins, immediately opposite the Tapas reception

[G-Unit]

That sounds like the lampost on Rua Martins, immediately opposite the Tapas reception

The arial pic shows arrows into the car park but not as far as the lamp post which is quite far in. It also doesn't show what the handler says; that after exiting the passageway the dog turned left towards the top of the road before crossing over to the same side as block 6.