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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1365 on: January 14, 2020, 03:44:33 PM »
We have encountered a number of police officers and ambulance staff in Portugal, and they all spoke high quality English.

Pity they seem to have been in such short supply in the immediate aftermath so much so it was left to good citizen RM.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1366 on: January 14, 2020, 03:47:58 PM »
To name just two officers, Ricardo Paiva and Joao Carlos both spoke English. Interpreters weren't used because the PJ didn't speak English imo, they were used because they were professionals.

I think someone would need to be deemed competent to a certain level ie bilingual to record a witness statement.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1367 on: January 14, 2020, 03:48:25 PM »
Pity they seem to have been in such short supply in the immediate aftermath so much so it was left to good citizen RM.


Well it was the night shift.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1368 on: January 14, 2020, 03:49:42 PM »
I absolutely agree on Mr Williams Thomas.  He is an opportunist, who incidentally retired as a police Constable going nowhere in The police force.

He had some success with Savile and seems to have built a reputation on the back of this. 

I believe he has an advanced qualification in criminology?
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1369 on: January 14, 2020, 03:51:56 PM »

Well it was the night shift.

And then there was an incident very early on when KM went into meltdown mode when she learned the FLO's had not been able to get anywhere as an interpreter was unavailable.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1370 on: January 14, 2020, 03:53:56 PM »
He had some success with Savile and seems to have built a reputation on the back of this. 

I believe he has an advanced qualification in criminology?

What success?  Did he find any Evidence?  Nope.  He jumped on the bandwagon and then pontificated about what others had to say.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1371 on: January 14, 2020, 03:59:08 PM »
What success?  Did he find any Evidence?  Nope. He jumped on the bandwagon and then pontificated about what others had to say.

You have a problem with that ?

One might say Clarence saw the opportunity and jumped on the band wagon.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1372 on: January 14, 2020, 04:01:22 PM »
You have a problem with that ?

One might say Clarence saw the opportunity and jumped on the band wagon.

I thought CM was asked by 'officialdom' to get involved?

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1373 on: January 14, 2020, 04:01:41 PM »
Pity they seem to have been in such short supply in the immediate aftermath so much so it was left to good citizen RM.

The local supermarket check-out workers all speak good quality English.

The reason why has already been done to death.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1374 on: January 14, 2020, 04:14:43 PM »
The local supermarket check-out workers all speak good quality English.

The reason why has already been done to death.

Of course they do coz they're mainly talking to English speaking tourists.  Hopefully most tourists don't need to communicate with GNR/PJ.

Was English taught in Portugal's state schools pre 1990's?  If not then I see no reason for the majority of GNR/PJ to speak English to the extent they would be capable of recording witness statements.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1375 on: January 14, 2020, 04:19:27 PM »
You have a problem with that ?

One might say Clarence saw the opportunity and jumped on the band wagon.

Only when anyone pays attention to his ill informed opinion.

Clarence was definitely not the same at all.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1376 on: January 14, 2020, 04:20:18 PM »
I thought CM was asked by 'officialdom' to get involved?

He was.

Offline jassi

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1377 on: January 14, 2020, 04:20:43 PM »
I thought CM was asked by 'officialdom' to get involved?

Only as a secondment - he was still working for government.
He later threw this over for  being employed by, or on behalf of McCann.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1378 on: January 14, 2020, 04:29:47 PM »
Of course they do coz they're mainly talking to English speaking tourists.  Hopefully most tourists don't need to communicate with GNR/PJ.

Was English taught in Portugal's state schools pre 1990's?  If not then I see no reason for the majority of GNR/PJ to speak English to the extent they would be capable of recording witness statements.

English was long taught in French Schools but when I came here no one spoke English, or at least they said they didn't, although they might have been afraid of embarrassing themselves.  Nowadays they all practice their excellent English on me while I still struggle with French.

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1379 on: January 14, 2020, 04:30:14 PM »
Only when anyone pays attention to his ill informed opinion.

Clarence was definitely not the same at all.

In my opinion he was so we shall agree to differ.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.