Lies, lies and more dam llies...

[sadie]

Oh Gerry searched alright.  How much, I dont know.  I well remember photos of him with a man (was it his brother in Law) searching the cracks in the cliffs, and also between the boulders below on the beach near Rocha Negro. 

I bet that Kate was told not to search, distressed, children to look after, the possibility of seeing the decomposing body of her first born.  Kates health has been very frail.

[Mrs. B]

If they didn't "search" at all how come this GNR officer saw them both out in the street early the morning after Madeleine disappeared? I suppose we better get the tin hats out, because he must obviously be in on it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO-NETO.htm

They searched, but IMO, it wouldn't have mattered anyway, she was most likely not even in Portugal at that point.

The rest of the day BOTH the parents spent in the police office being questioned, according to the files.

 

[Carana]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

[Benice]

If they didn't "search" at all how come this GNR officer saw them both out in the street early the morning after Madeleine disappeared? I suppose we better get the tin hats out, because he must obviously be in on it.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO-NETO.htm

They searched, but IMO, it wouldn't have mattered anyway, she was most likely not even in Portugal at that point.

The rest of the day BOTH the parents spent in the police office being questioned, according to the files.

Can anyone imagine 100s of reporters, starved of any info from the police,  just standing quietly back and allowing them to search?  I don't think so.

[Benice]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

Isn't this what happened with April Jones parents? 

[Mrs. B]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

Isn't this what happened with April Jones parents?

It's what happened with the McCann couple too, they spent the rest of the time at the police station answering questions just after she went missing. Still, earlier than that, they were out in the streets of PDL searching. People still deliberately "misunderstand" the "I didn't physically search" interview quote from Kate McCann.

[Carana]

I remember standing in the middle of the chaos thinking, I wish I had a book to tell me what to do.
- Colleen Nick

That guide is 114 pages long.

[Puffin]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

Isn't this what happened with April Jones parents?

It's what happened with the McCann couple too, they spent the rest of the time at the police station answering questions just after she went missing. Still, earlier than that, they were out in the streets of PDL searching. People still deliberately "misunderstand" the "I didn't physically search" interview quote from Kate McCann. 

I understand that the police prefer one parent to stay in the place the child, if they have wandered off, will try and return to, so that there will be a recognisable point of contact.  I do not think that a child would be very receptive to a total stranger waiting for her/him on their return.  The mother, rather than the father, would be the first and obvious choice.

[sadie]

SNIP?-

Couple that with the instant need to publish THEIR phone number right away, alongside the PJ's
It all goes back to the words of Justice Hogg 'I ponder this person'.  -/SNIP/-

If I saw the way that the PJ had set people up using torture
If I saw the way that the PJ were NOT looking for my daughter
If I saw the way the PJ were trying to fit me up
If I knew that people wre afraid of the fascist PJ and probably frightened to contact them

Then I would want information to come to me, direct.  I would display my phone number, big and bold ... everywhere

[Benice]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

Isn't this what happened with April Jones parents?

It's what happened with the McCann couple too, they spent the rest of the time at the police station answering questions just after she went missing. Still, earlier than that, they were out in the streets of PDL searching. People still deliberately "misunderstand" the "I didn't physically search" interview quote from Kate McCann.

Indeed.  IIRC Nowhere in that interview is Kate asked about the searching she and Gerry did - or M.Warner's search procedure  - only whether she felt she had wanted to join in with the searches, which went on for a long time in the days afterwards by the locals.     Im sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong but from memory  - her immediate reply was  ..'Well, I did'  - which apparently to some people means 'No I didn't'.   

Any physical searching by the McCanns would have been impractical anyway because of the hordes of media people who had descended on PdL. 

[Puffin]

Returning to John's original post on here, has a response been given?  We need to know!!   Puffin    >@@(*&)

[registrar]

When Your Child Goes Missing: Survival Guide

 Your Role in the Search:The First 48 Hours
In the initial stage of thesearch, devote your time to providing informationto and answering questions from investigators.

 Once you discover that your child is missing, you will desperately want tohelp with the search. You may, in fact, wonder how you possibly can stand by and let others look for your child. But the reality is that in most instances, the best use of your energy is not on the physical search itself. Rather, you need to provide information to and answer questions from investigators and to be at home in the event your child calls or returns.


http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/when-your-child-goes-missing/

Isn't this what happened with April Jones parents?

It's what happened with the McCann couple too, they spent the rest of the time at the police station answering questions just after she went missing. Still, earlier than that, they were out in the streets of PDL searching. People still deliberately "misunderstand" the "I didn't physically search" interview quote from Kate McCann.

Indeed.  IIRC Nowhere in that interview is Kate asked about the searching she and Gerry did - or M.Warner's search procedure  - only whether she felt she had wanted to join in with the searches, which went on for a long time in the days afterwards by the locals.     Im sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong but from memory  - her immediate reply was  ..'Well, I did'  - which apparently to some people means 'No I didn't'.   

Any physical searching by the McCanns would have been impractical anyway because of the hordes of media people who had descended on PdL.

And do remind us why hordes of media people had descended on Luz?

Yep right because of Team McCann and their PR juggernaut activities.

The parents can't have it both ways - they can't invite the worldwide media - and then dictate to them what to report.

A certain Diana Spencer learnt this to her cost.

[registrar]

Yes, I agree I am in a cynical mood tonight but I have seen what goes on from the perspective of both sides and in both the UK and Iberia.    When I read that article which was posted this morning about that poor woman who lost her daughter only to be tortured by the out of control PJ while Amaral stood and watched it brought it all back as to what I myself experienced in Spain.  I saw the Guardia beat people for no justifiable reason, I saw prison guards beat a shackled man face down in a bed.  These are not fictional events guys, they go on every single day in civilised Spain and Portugal.

As far as SY and the Met is concerned, I stand by my original post...they have zilch!   They have already wasted £millions chasing ghosts. I find myself agreeing with their critics at times, if the McCanns were really interested in finding their daughter why weren't they on the ground searching for her where it counts?   This may be controversial but have they given up on finding her?

A valid view - whichever way you look at it 'Team McCann' did very little by way of searching - physical searching that is.


Both are fit and healthy - their running activities all known to us.

We have pictorial evidence of GNR looking into bins, members of the public looking down wells, hell even microlights scouring the area above Luz - none of those pictures feature G&K - the only exception to my recollection - Gerry taking a stroll down the rocks adjoining the church in Luz.

HERE comes the lobbed grenade - what if G&K had a very good idea of who spirited the child away?

'She'll give you her tuppence worth - keep her warm' etc.

Couple that with the instant need to publish THEIR phone number right away, alongside the PJ's and that curious Ward of Court set up - that to my knowledge has hitherto only been done in camera - not in front of flashing cameras.

It all goes back to the words of Justice Hogg 'I ponder this person'.

No need to kayak the Algarve coast - if you're certain the child is with uncle and auntie  (say) and won't be hurt.

Just put out a big prize money (the fund) and wait for them to come to you - all anonymously.

A trade off

Tin hat at the ready

Conspiracy theories are rarely valid   ...  the truth is almost always quite simple in the end

I'm interested in your theory though  (  and not in an abstract way  ...  I am genuinely interested ) 

Do you feel up to sharing ?

This is not a new theory/idea - it's an old, typical anti theory - Madeleine being "allowed" to be abducted by someone who genuinely wanted her (her parents could no longer be bothered with her because they now had the twins/she was hyperactive/ she had some imperfection (take your pick) for which not a shred of evidence exists.

 

Where does it imply the parents 'allowed' an abduction in my post?

Reread and apologise for a deliberate misinterpretation at your leisure please.

I don't know whether you are from England/Wales - but you might want to read up on when WoC is used in 90% of cases.

[John]

Returning to John's original post on here, has a response been given?  We need to know!!   Puffin    >@@(*&)

No...no response or retraction from the member concerned.

[registrar]

Sadie posted:

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Oh Gerry searched alright.  How much, I dont know.  I well remember photos of him with a man (was it his brother in Law) searching the cracks in the cliffs, and also between the boulders below on the beach near Rocha Negro. 

I bet that Kate was told not to search, distressed, children to look after, the possibility of seeing the decomposing body of her first born.  Kates health has been very frail.

unquote

not that frail