Author Topic: Has the reward money for the safe return of Madeleine McCann been dropped?  (Read 112724 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Registrar, do you accept that Madeleine was likely abducted by a stranger?

No
Ah, I see. So do you think the McCanns are involved in her disappearance?

Certainly they are 'involved' but not in the way you are attempting to suggest.  They chose to leave the children unattended in a foreign environment so involved they are.  Had they been more responsible in the first place then Madeleine would not have been taken.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline xtina

... woke and wandered and met with an accident or chance abduction

still a viable option

I don't agree registrar.   There is far too much evidence against this ergo »

1.  Had she awoke and wandered she would have been heard on the balcony.

2.  Madeleine could not have raised the shutters.

3.  Suspect seen fleeing the scene between checks.

4.  Cuddle cat left in room.

[probably off subject but it really disturbed me]
cuddle cat being washed....probably some will say they would do the same ...but comeon...the cosiest thing to maddie etc
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline sadie

There comes a time for evrything Xtina.

Kate had been carrying Cuddle cat everywhere with her.  It comforted her.

Carrying cuddle cat in a hot country.  Bet it was beginning to stink (put crudely)

Neither parent would want a special remembrance of their missing daughter smelling for ever of Kates sweaty hands.



Think about it.

Offline Carana

There comes a time for evrything Xtina.

Kate had been carrying Cuddle cat everywhere with her.  It comforted her.

Carrying cuddle cat in a hot country.  Bet it was beginning to stink (put crudely)

Neither parent would want a special remembrance of their missing daughter smelling for ever of Kates sweaty hands.



Think about it.

Obviously.

Offline xtina

There comes a time for evrything Xtina.

Kate had been carrying Cuddle cat everywhere with her.  It comforted her.

Carrying cuddle cat in a hot country.  Bet it was beginning to stink (put crudely)

Neither parent would want a special remembrance of their missing daughter smelling for ever of Kates sweaty hands.



Think about it.


yes..... i have thought about it many times.......my opinion is still the same...why did she wash it ...or carry it about ...why not just hold it close on a night..........by washing it it was just another toy

you don't know either that it stank [your words]
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.


icabodcrane

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Kate writes this about the reward.
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Alex Woolfall told us that the News of the World, spearheading a group of other benefactors – including Bill Kenwright, the theatre impresario and chairman of Everton FC, businessmen Sir Richard Branson and Sir Philip Green and Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling – was prepared to put up a reward ‘package’ totalling £1.5 million. It would involve companies such as British Airways and Vodafone helping with publicity and awareness initiatives. They needed to know by the following day whether we would like them to proceed. This may sound like a no-brainer, but we had to be careful. We hadn’t a clue how such rewards worked. Would the police be involved? Who would coordinate any ransom negotiations? How would we actually get hold of all this money if necessary? And, most importantly, what were the potential pitfalls? Surely it could lead to fraudulent claims that might waste valuable time and resources. We had no idea, either, what implications this might have for Madeleine’s safety.

Under pressure to make a decision, we solicited advice from various quarters, which confirmed that this kind of thing could indeed be a bit of a double-edged sword. We felt that, on balance, the pros outweighed the cons, thanked all the participants and accepted the offer, as much because we did not want to turn down any corporate help as anything else. With the £100,000 from my GP colleague and a staggering £1 million added by Stephen Winyard – the owner of Stobo Castle spa in the Scottish Highlands and a man who had so far never even met us – the rewards promised now totalled £2.6 million.

McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (pp. 121-122). Random House UK. Kindle Edition. McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (p. 121). Random House UK. Kindle Edition.
It is clear the reward was orchestrated by the News of the World.  As the newspaper is no longer in print I suspect the reward is no longer available, however as they were part of Murdoch's empire, confirmation from News International as to whether the reward is available or not would clarify matters.

The McCanns, by all accounts, had to give their permission for a reward to be offered as offers came flooding in and the reward was being spearheaded by the News of the World.  It is obvious the McCanns would promote the reward and even visit the sight where the giant inflatable advertising the reward was placed.

However what I do find interesting is the Survival guide about having a child who is missing and what they say about rewards, especially the part about using your own finances.

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Do not use your personal funds to finance the reward. As hard as it may be, refrain from using your own personal funds for the reward. Based on the terms and conditions spelled out in the reward offer, you may be liable for payment of the reward, and you may even be sued. And though you may not realize it in the beginning, you may be faced with financial constraints months or years later, for example, if you are out of work for an extended period of time helping in the search for your child

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61046626/Family-Survival-When-Your-Child-Goes-Missing

Chapter 6 is well worth a read.

We can all sit here, post and say how we would react if our child went missing.  What you think you might do, could be completely different to what you would actually do if you were in that situation.  If your child was missing, you would move heaven and earth to get your child back.  You would use the media to keep your child's profile high.  A family with a missing child never give up hope.

The McCanns wouldn't  need  to use  'their own money'   ...  they could use the Fund's money   (  which is Madeleine's )

On another thread we have been discussing the abject failure of the McCann's campaign so far  (  six years later and no further forward than they were on the night Madeleine disappeared )

Something else clearly needs to be done,  and as Angelo points out, that  'something else'   could be offering a huge reward, and promoting it aggressively abroad 

It is something that has not been tried and it has to be worth at least a shot   ...  I don't understand why people are objecting to it

Offline gilet

Kate writes this about the reward.
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Alex Woolfall told us that the News of the World, spearheading a group of other benefactors – including Bill Kenwright, the theatre impresario and chairman of Everton FC, businessmen Sir Richard Branson and Sir Philip Green and Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling – was prepared to put up a reward ‘package’ totalling £1.5 million. It would involve companies such as British Airways and Vodafone helping with publicity and awareness initiatives. They needed to know by the following day whether we would like them to proceed. This may sound like a no-brainer, but we had to be careful. We hadn’t a clue how such rewards worked. Would the police be involved? Who would coordinate any ransom negotiations? How would we actually get hold of all this money if necessary? And, most importantly, what were the potential pitfalls? Surely it could lead to fraudulent claims that might waste valuable time and resources. We had no idea, either, what implications this might have for Madeleine’s safety.

Under pressure to make a decision, we solicited advice from various quarters, which confirmed that this kind of thing could indeed be a bit of a double-edged sword. We felt that, on balance, the pros outweighed the cons, thanked all the participants and accepted the offer, as much because we did not want to turn down any corporate help as anything else. With the £100,000 from my GP colleague and a staggering £1 million added by Stephen Winyard – the owner of Stobo Castle spa in the Scottish Highlands and a man who had so far never even met us – the rewards promised now totalled £2.6 million.

McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (pp. 121-122). Random House UK. Kindle Edition. McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (p. 121). Random House UK. Kindle Edition.
It is clear the reward was orchestrated by the News of the World.  As the newspaper is no longer in print I suspect the reward is no longer available, however as they were part of Murdoch's empire, confirmation from News International as to whether the reward is available or not would clarify matters.

The McCanns, by all accounts, had to give their permission for a reward to be offered as offers came flooding in and the reward was being spearheaded by the News of the World.  It is obvious the McCanns would promote the reward and even visit the sight where the giant inflatable advertising the reward was placed.

However what I do find interesting is the Survival guide about having a child who is missing and what they say about rewards, especially the part about using your own finances.

Quote
Do not use your personal funds to finance the reward. As hard as it may be, refrain from using your own personal funds for the reward. Based on the terms and conditions spelled out in the reward offer, you may be liable for payment of the reward, and you may even be sued. And though you may not realize it in the beginning, you may be faced with financial constraints months or years later, for example, if you are out of work for an extended period of time helping in the search for your child

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61046626/Family-Survival-When-Your-Child-Goes-Missing

Chapter 6 is well worth a read.

We can all sit here, post and say how we would react if our child went missing.  What you think you might do, could be completely different to what you would actually do if you were in that situation.  If your child was missing, you would move heaven and earth to get your child back.  You would use the media to keep your child's profile high.  A family with a missing child never give up hope.

The McCanns wouldn't  need  to use  'their own money'   ...  they could use the Fund's money   (  which is Madeleine's )

On another thread we have been discussing the abject failure of the McCann's campaign so far  (  six years later and no further forward than they were on the night Madeleine disappeared )

Something else clearly needs to be done,  and as Angelo points out, that  'something else'   could be offering a huge reward, and promoting it aggressively abroad 

It is something that has not been tried and it has to be worth at least a shot   ...  I don't understand why people are objecting to it

I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.




icabodcrane

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I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's 

icabodcrane

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I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's

Sorry,  I messed up the quotations thing there

Offline gilet

 
I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's

Thankfully I can work the quotes out.

Why do you think that all the advice they have receieved would be in the book?  I never mentioned the book.

icabodcrane

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I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's

Thankfully I can work the quotes out.

Why do you think that all the advice they have receieved would be in the book?  I never mentioned the book.

All I know is that in Kate's version of the truth  (  her description of the book )  she only mentions  'Hugh'  from Control Risks as advising her against offering a reward

...  because offering a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Don't you find that odd ?  ...  saying that a reward would put a price on Madeleine's head rather than putting a price on the abductor's head  ?


Offline gilet

 
I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's

Thankfully I can work the quotes out.

Why do you think that all the advice they have receieved would be in the book?  I never mentioned the book.

All I know is that in Kate's version of the truth  (  her description of the book )  she only mentions  'Hugh'  from Control Risks as advising her against offering a reward

...  because offering a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Don't you find that odd ?  ...  saying that a reward would put a price on Madeleine's head rather than putting a price on the abductor's head  ?

Not even remotely odd.

Rewards are not a panacea. In fact I doubt that they have solved many missing child situations. Personally I can't think of any, can you?

But I can understand that setting a reward, particularly a very high reward may in fact scare an abductor who was hiding a child and cause that person to ensure that the child is never found.

As I have said before, I am sure that the McCanns have discussed these factors at length with the experts and I am prepared to recognise that I have no expertise in the matter and respect their decision. Clearly you are not.

icabodcrane

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I am sure that the McCanns and their advisers have discussed this subject at length. Since they were conned by Metodo, I am sure that their advisers have been better chosen. And quite possibly there has been input from Scotland Yard Officers on the subject. 

Clearly the decision has been not to do as you suggest. As for why that might be I don't know and I doubt anyone here does, but unlike some I am prepared to respect their decision about the actions they feel are right for their daughter.

The only reference I can find in Kate's book regarding advise about not offering a reward is her mention of  'Hugh' from Control Risks telling her that a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Which left me confused   ...  to my thinking,   a reward would  'put a price' on the abductor's head,  not Madeleine's

Thankfully I can work the quotes out.

Why do you think that all the advice they have receieved would be in the book?  I never mentioned the book.

All I know is that in Kate's version of the truth  (  her description of the book )  she only mentions  'Hugh'  from Control Risks as advising her against offering a reward

...  because offering a reward would  'put a price on Madeleine's head'

Don't you find that odd ?  ...  saying that a reward would put a price on Madeleine's head rather than putting a price on the abductor's head  ?

Not even remotely odd.

Rewards are not a panacea. In fact I doubt that they have solved many missing child situations. Personally I can't think of any, can you?

But I can understand that setting a reward, particularly a very high reward may in fact scare an abductor who was hiding a child and cause that person to ensure that the child is never found.

As I have said before, I am sure that the McCanns have discussed these factors at length with the experts and I am prepared to recognise that I have no expertise in the matter and respect their decision. Clearly you are not.

The question I asked was,  do you not find it odd that this  'expert'  used the phrase   "a reward would put a price on Madeleine's head"  

Any reward would, in truth,  'put a price'  on the abductor's head  ...  do you not agree ?