Amaral's OWN Private Investigation

[gilet]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

Not even the great Goncalo himself has ever put a theory forward which makes any sense of the fridge.

Not just strange but blinking incredible as its his theory.

Anyway I am sure Icabodcrane is just teasing and is about to post up both the EVIDENCE for the fridge and a credible theory how it all happened.

I have no intention, means, or inclination to  'prove' Amaral's theory

My point is,  that you can't  disprove it

In the same way that those who question the McCanns cannot disprove the abductor theory

Nor can you match the witnesses with anything whatsoever that supports a fridge.

Witnesses do not equal your blank nothingness.

[icabodcrane]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

Not even the great Goncalo himself has ever put a theory forward which makes any sense of the fridge.

Not just strange but blinking incredible as its his theory.

Anyway I am sure Icabodcrane is just teasing and is about to post up both the EVIDENCE for the fridge and a credible theory how it all happened.

Wow, I can't wait.

Well you'll have to

I am not convinced by Amaral's theory

Nor am I convinced by the McCann's abductor theory

This is not a question of black or white  ...  there is a grey area inbetween,  and that is where I'm lodged

[gilet]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

Not even the great Goncalo himself has ever put a theory forward which makes any sense of the fridge.

Not just strange but blinking incredible as its his theory.

Anyway I am sure Icabodcrane is just teasing and is about to post up both the EVIDENCE for the fridge and a credible theory how it all happened.

Wow, I can't wait.

Well you'll have to

I am not convinced by Amaral's theory

Nor am I convinced by the McCann's abductor theory

This is not a question of black or white  ...  there is a grey area inbetween,  and that is where I'm lodged

But there is absolutely no equality between a fridge that nobody has ever seen except the wholly discredited Goncalo Amaral who was dismissed from the case and is desperate to salvage his reputation (according to him) and four or more witnesses who actually saw a living human being carrying a child from the very location where a child went missing not more than a few minutes prior to there sighting.

Anyone who claims the level of evidence between those is delusional (IMO of course).

[registrar]

the 'fridge' is SOOOO 2007

get over it

[icabodcrane]

Rubbish reply.
You are an anti first and formost.
You try to tread a fine line sometimes but your agenda is here for everyone to see.

Well,  you're wrong there

Anyway, I'm off to watch The Voice  ( recorded the knock out shows ) 

Goodnight all

[AnneGuedes]

I have no intention, means, or inclination to  'prove' Amaral's theory

My point is,  that you can't  disprove it

In the same way that those who question the McCanns cannot disprove the abductor theory

That's pretty fair.
The two theories have a common point : a child carrier.
GA might think that JT saw him later than 21h10, but he believes the Smith family no doubt.

[gilet]

I have no intention, means, or inclination to  'prove' Amaral's theory

My point is,  that you can't  disprove it

In the same way that those who question the McCanns cannot disprove the abductor theory

That's pretty fair.
The two theories have a common point : a child carrier.
GA might think that JT saw him later than 21h10, but he believes the Smith family no doubt.

But there is still no evidence of a fridge.

Sheer desperation.

[AnneGuedes]

Forget the freezer, just a work hypothesis obviously, and let's concentrate on what joins both theories, the child carrier. Any doubt about his existence ?

[gilet]

Forget the freezer, just a work hypothesis obviously, and let's concentrate on what joins both theories, the child carrier. Any doubt about his existence ?

Why forget the crucial part of Amaral's theory? Can you not make it fit?

[sika]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

I've noticed that also.

I don't really know why they are tolerated on here. It gets more like Tesko Towers every day.

[Mrs. B]

Forget the freezer, just a work hypothesis obviously, and let's concentrate on what joins both theories, the child carrier. Any doubt about his existence ?

Why forget the crucial part of Amaral's theory? Can you not make it fit?

It's indeed a crucial part of Amaral's theory - he makes that very clear here - where he also lines out the "sedation by Calpol" part of his theory. http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/09/06/internacional/1220677421.html

[Carana]

Forget the freezer, just a work hypothesis obviously, and let's concentrate on what joins both theories, the child carrier. Any doubt about his existence ?

It's wasn't just a working hypothesis for Amaral, though.


"The cadaver was frozen"

Correio da Manhã - What do you think happened to the body?

Gonçalo Amaral – Everything indicated that the body, after having been at a certain location, was moved into another location by car, twenty something days later. With the residues that were found inside the car, the little girl had to have been transported inside it.

How can you state that?

Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk's right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it's the only way to explain what happened there.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id139.html

[Carana]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

I've noticed that also.

I don't really know why they are tolerated on here. It gets more like Tesko Towers every day.

LOL

[Chinagirl]

Forget the freezer, just a work hypothesis obviously, and let's concentrate on what joins both theories, the child carrier. Any doubt about his existence ?

It's wasn't just a working hypothesis for Amaral, though.


"The cadaver was frozen"

Correio da Manhã - What do you think happened to the body?

Gonçalo Amaral – Everything indicated that the body, after having been at a certain location, was moved into another location by car, twenty something days later. With the residues that were found inside the car, the little girl had to have been transported inside it.

How can you state that?

Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk's right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it's the only way to explain what happened there.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id139.html

Indeed, Carana.  And this is one of the stupidest comments I have ever heard from an adult, never mind a senior police officer!

[Benice]

I would also like someone to put even a half-hearted theory together which works with Amaral's fridge scenario.

I notice that he never managed to put one together. Odd that as it was the crux of his theory.

But lets see the anti McCann posters try instead.

No anti has ever put a credible theory together.
Strange that.

Not even the great Goncalo himself has ever put a theory forward which makes any sense of the fridge.

Not just strange but blinking incredible as its his theory.

Anyway I am sure Icabodcrane is just teasing and is about to post up both the EVIDENCE for the fridge and a credible theory how it all happened.

I have no intention, means, or inclination to  'prove' Amaral's theory

My point is,  that you can't  disprove it

In the same way that those who question the McCanns cannot disprove the abductor theory

I can't disprove that Madeleine wasn't whisked away by air balloon, or by aliens - but common sense tells me that isn't what happened.   

With respect Icab - IMO that is what is lacking in your 'argument' - i.e. the application of simple 'common sense'.   

Something which I have noticed is invariably absent in most Sceptics' assertions at every level of this case.