Author Topic: Ricardo Paiva, "Kate McCann had a dream where she saw Maddie on a hillside"  (Read 128339 times)

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Offline gilet

Paiva's exact words as reported by the Telegraph:

“Kate called me, she was alone as Gerry was away and she was crying,” he said. “She said she had dreamt that Madeleine was on a hill and that we should search for her there.

“She gave the impression that she thought she was dead – it was a turning point for us.”


Exactly the same as the words reported in the OP article.  The fact that the Telegraph have chosen (as you did "Faithlilly") to interpret them to mean Kate dreamt of a dead body is neither here nor there - Paiva's quote makes it clear it was HIS impression and supposition!

An impression. And that is how the case was being investigated. I see.

Offline faithlilly

Interesting to note that the Telegraph article you linked to this evening was written on the 12th Jan 2010, and the one you linked to in the OP was posted on the 13th Jan and the reference to Kate telling Paiva she had dreamed about Madeleine's body was absent from the amended, later version.  Seems like the Telegraph writers are sticklers for the facts after all.

Strange then that it can still be found in a quick search of their archives.
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Offline Mr Moderator

Kate had dream of where to dig

POLICE are ready to dig up a hillside where distraught Kate McCann dreamt missing daughter Madeleine had been placed.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5612497/Cops-ready-to-dig-for-Maddie-McCann-body-after-mother-dream.html

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Offline Wonderfulspam

There was me thinking Kate never had this dream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDveSZZGuM


Telegraph, January 2010

Madeleine McCann: mother's dream was 'turning point' in investigation, court hears

Police investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance began searching for her body after her mother, Kate, told detectives about a dream which suggested the toddler was dead, a court heard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6977977/Madeleine-McCann-mothers-dream-was-turning-point-in-investigation-court-hears.html


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-made-a-suspect-in-maddy-194499

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/116850/Kate-McCann-told-police-of-murder-dream


"Despite everything, until a certain moment in the investigation, the [McCann] family sustained and fed the abduction thesis. Nevertheless, at an uncertain date, the family suggested to consult a person that might, eventually, indicate the probable location of little Madeleine's cadaver. This fact became inexplicable to the members of the investigation, given the fact that it was the family members themselves who raised the possibility of little Maddie's death."

in Process 201/07.0GALGS, volume XVII, page 2594
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Isn't that the dream that Gerry McCann stood outside the court in Portugal denying Kate had ever had   ? 

 

Offline pathfinder73

Yes
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Isn't that the dream that Gerry McCann stood outside the court in Portugal denying Kate had ever had   ? 

 

There was me thinking Kate never had this dream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDveSZZGuM
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Offline pathfinder73

Thanks for sharing WS.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

There was me thinking Kate never had this dream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDveSZZGuM

So where does Kate confirm she had this dream

Offline Wonderfulspam

So where does Kate confirm she had this dream

She don't have to,  the Sun have just done it for her.

Kate had dream of where to dig, was the headline.

No, Kate is alleged to have, but strongly denies.

Regardless of them quoting Paiva as the source further down the article, no one is going to take any notice the small print are they.
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Offline Mr Gray

She don't have to,  the Sun have just done it for her.

Kate had dream of where to dig, was the headline.

No, Kate is alleged to have, but strongly denies.

Regardless of them quoting Paiva as the source further down the article, no one is going to take any notice the small print are they.
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So theres no record of kate actually talking about the dream

Offline Wonderfulspam

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So theres no record of kate actually talking about the dream

She told Paiva, that much has been recorded in court.
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Offline Mr Gray

She told Paiva, that much has been recorded in court.


NO ..paiva claims Kate told him...perhaps its his poor english

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NO ..paiva claims Kate told him...perhaps its his poor english

Maybe now would be a good time for Clarence to do his job because to Sun readers everywhere, Kate had a dream of where to dig.

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Offline pegasus

NO ..paiva claims Kate told him...perhaps its his poor english
Are you assuming his english language might be poor or do you have some confirmation of that?
I don't know the answer, maybe it's poor, maybe it's good, just curious if you know?