Author Topic: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?  (Read 125816 times)

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AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #150 on: June 09, 2013, 01:35:25 PM »
Yes, EVERY variation of any scenario could have been examined, that's why modern police forces tend to use computers these days, instead of real life reconstructions.
Let's hope you're right and that one day, thanks to computing, the Yard will at least explain what happened to Madeleine.

Offline Benice

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #151 on: June 09, 2013, 01:41:54 PM »
Let's hope you're right and that one day, thanks to computing, the Yard will at least explain what happened to Madeleine.

Well they have already established by the forensic analysis of the timelines that there was clearly an opportunity for Madeleine to have been removed from the apartment.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #152 on: June 09, 2013, 01:46:34 PM »
Well they have already established by the forensic analysis of the timelines that there was clearly an opportunity for Madeleine to have been removed from the apartment.
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This is no revelation. Have you a link for the "clearly" ?
Even without a computer program the PGR didn't discard it, though not "clear".

Offline Mrs. B

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #153 on: June 09, 2013, 01:54:52 PM »
Well they have already established by the forensic analysis of the timelines that there was clearly an opportunity for Madeleine to have been removed from the apartment.

You can really not make it clearer than Scotland Yard does here -



Offline Milly

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #154 on: June 09, 2013, 02:02:47 PM »
All hot air and spin for we haven't got a bloody clue.   @)(++(*

DCI Redwood >>"I believe she is still alive because...one, she is alive and two, sadly she's not.  There is a real possiblity that she's alive."

Thus he just construed his initial assertion.  With logic like this God help you Madeleine.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 02:08:12 PM by Milly »

Offline Mrs. B

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #155 on: June 09, 2013, 02:06:11 PM »
Quite normal that WE don't have a clue, WE are not supposed to, WE are not law enforcement.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #156 on: June 09, 2013, 02:09:32 PM »
You can really not make it clearer than Scotland Yard does here -

Thanks ! So his forensic timeline analysis (through computer program) shows a "clear opportunity". Unfortunately it wasn't enough to convince the PGR. But this was one year back, since then 37 full time working officers must have found more.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #157 on: June 09, 2013, 02:12:17 PM »
All hot air and spin for we haven't got a bloody clue.   @)(++(*

DCI Redwood >>"I believe she is still alive because...one, she is alive and two, sadly she's not.  There is a real possiblity that she's alive."

Thus he just construed his initial assertion.  With logic like this God help you Madeleine.
Yes I laughed about this strange logic in another thread where I underlined all his "I/we believe", something nobody in the world is expecting from the Yard.

Offline John

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #158 on: June 09, 2013, 02:14:04 PM »
Here is a graphic showing how the appearance of the abductor has morphed over 6 years.   @)(++(*

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Lace

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #159 on: June 09, 2013, 02:17:23 PM »
It is very interesting that both Jane Tanner and Smith both say the man with the child did not resemble a tourist.
Also the age of the man the height and what he was wearing are very similar.    Add that to the fact that they both carried a child aged about 3/4, with blonde hair,wearing light coloured pyjama's who had bare feet, and it would sound as though it was the same person that they saw.

As to the frill on the bottom of the pyjama's,   Jane said at first she had said she thought it was  a turn up on the bottom of the pyjama's,   then she learned that Madeleine's pyjama's had a frill on the bottom of them which could have been what she saw.

Also another point someone made  that Madeleine's pyjama's were shorts and so Jane wouldn't have been able to see the bottom of them.   Remember Madeleine was small for her age,   so the shorts could have been longer on her than they would have been on a taller child of her age.

Is it possible this man met up with an accompolice before carrying on down to the beach area?    Maybe as there was a certain time and place he had to be at?




 


AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #160 on: June 09, 2013, 02:18:17 PM »

John, you made me laugh so much yesterday night, I almost woke up to laugh !
I have to say thank you !

Offline Lace

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #161 on: June 09, 2013, 02:20:23 PM »
Here is a graphic showing how the appearance of the abductor has morphed over 6 years.   @)(++(*



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Are they?     I do believe they are witnesses accounts of men that were seen hanging around the apartment.




AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #162 on: June 09, 2013, 02:23:04 PM »
Here is a graphic showing how the appearance of the abductor has morphed over 6 years.   @)(++(*


One has to admit that most of those gentlemen are freaking out, as in tales. I can't think of Madeleine opening her eyes on them : no nightmare but reality !

Offline John

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #163 on: June 09, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »
Can someone answer this question.  How the hell could Jane Tanner provide facial details when she never saw the guys face?





This was NOT Jane Tanners photfit.  I am surprised that you didn't know that.

I feel sure that you wouldn't want to create a new myth. 8(>((


You are correct of course Sadie.  The above sketch was based on an interview with Gail Cooper,
a grandmother from Nottinghamshire, who originally gave a statement to police in May 2009.

PS.  I have corrected the original post and those which followed. TY
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 02:33:02 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #164 on: June 09, 2013, 02:27:55 PM »
One has to admit that most of those gentlemen are freaking out, as in tales. I can't think of Madeleine opening her eyes on them : no nightmare but reality !

Spot the George Harrison look-a-like.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.