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ferryman

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #210 on: July 23, 2015, 08:38:21 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 23, 2015, 08:30:00 AM
Robert Murat refused his lawyer's advice and answered all questions. He was cleared.

So did Gerry McCann.

He was cleared.

Kate didn't.

And was cleared.
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stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #211 on: July 23, 2015, 08:38:26 AM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on July 23, 2015, 08:04:41 AM
Bang on the nail.

and of course, if the mccanns had both done the test and failed, guess what, it could show they had been lying.

 8)-)))
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #212 on: July 23, 2015, 08:38:41 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on July 23, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
Oh dear.

 @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

P.S. You do realize by know it was nothing to do with Trisha  ?

Mccann backers like you can argue all they like, but the fundamental truth remains, they could have done a lie detector and they didn't.

Just like the reconstruction.
  This was your post...


They volunteered to do so.

Then they changed their minds.

It is untrue...another lie told about the mccanns

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #213 on: July 23, 2015, 08:41:50 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 23, 2015, 08:26:33 AM
Lie detector tests are used in court in the US. They are used for confirmation when investigators suspect someone of lying. Anyone with enough life experience can spot a liar, the difficulty lies in proving it. Pointers exist; shifting in your seat, changing the subject when asked a question, touching your head, not using eye contact, changing tenses when answering questions, using unnecessary words for emphasis and 'distancing' from the subject (saying 'you' instead of 'I', for example).

And gulping. Look for it.

The liar has difficulty swallowing. You can hear it in his speech, or see it on his throat.

He is displaying a forced smile pasted on his face.

He is touching different parts of his face (nose, mouth, eyes, ears)

The liar answers a question by depersonalizing it. If you ask: “Did you cheat on this test?” she might answer: “No, I think cheating is the worst thing you can do.”
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #214 on: July 23, 2015, 08:46:38 AM »
Quote from: davel on July 23, 2015, 08:31:27 AM
lie detectors confirm nothing....the McCanns do not have to demonstrate their innocence....they have not been arrested or charged...SY consider them not suspects....because there is no evidence to charge them you are trying to build acase based on innuendo and junk science,,,signs of desperation

Polygraphs, like dog alerts, are just another tool. In the Prout case failing the test led to his confession and the confirmation of Eddie's alert. Great result for his wife's relatives who were able to get closure.
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ferryman

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #215 on: July 23, 2015, 08:47:08 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 23, 2015, 08:41:50 AM
And gulping. Look for it.

The liar has difficulty swallowing. You can hear it in his speech, or see it on his throat.

He is displaying a forced smile pasted on his face.

He is touching different parts of his face (nose, mouth, eyes, ears)

The liar answers a question by depersonalizing it. If you ask: “Did you cheat on this test?” she might answer: “No, I think cheating is the worst thing you can do.”

Liars spout guff on internet message-boards.
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stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #216 on: July 23, 2015, 08:47:53 AM »
Quote from: davel on July 23, 2015, 08:38:41 AM
  This was your post...


They volunteered to do so.

Then they changed their minds.

It is untrue...another lie told about the mccanns

Have you read through the posts and in connection with the discussions that took place with the lie detector practitioner
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Offline Benice

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #217 on: July 23, 2015, 08:49:39 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 23, 2015, 08:26:33 AM
Lie detector tests are used in court in the US. They are used for confirmation when investigators suspect someone of lying. Anyone with enough life experience can spot a liar, the difficulty lies in proving it. Pointers exist; shifting in your seat, changing the subject when asked a question, touching your head, not using eye contact, changing tenses when answering questions, using unnecessary words for emphasis and 'distancing' from the subject (saying 'you' instead of 'I', for example).

If it was so easy to spot a liar - there would be no such thing as a '[moderated].'   
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #218 on: July 23, 2015, 08:50:22 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 23, 2015, 08:26:33 AM
Lie detector tests are used in court in the US. They are used for confirmation when investigators suspect someone of lying. Anyone with enough life experience can spot a liar, the difficulty lies in proving it. Pointers exist; shifting in your seat, changing the subject when asked a question, touching your head, not using eye contact, changing tenses when answering questions, using unnecessary words for emphasis and 'distancing' from the subject (saying 'you' instead of 'I', for example).

the use of lie detectors in US courts is severely limited
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #219 on: July 23, 2015, 08:50:50 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on July 23, 2015, 08:47:08 AM
Liars spout guff on internet message-boards.

And you want to read how they train scent dogs as puppies. They put the scent on their toys! A scent dog is looking for his toy not a body. CC is a toy so a second test was performed and the TOY was hidden.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #220 on: July 23, 2015, 08:52:13 AM »
Why are posters only interested in lie detectors re the McCann case....there are thousands of crimes every day in the UK...why are they not used...because they are unreliable
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stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #221 on: July 23, 2015, 08:54:10 AM »
Quote from: davel on July 23, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
Why are posters only interested in lie detectors re the McCann case....there are thousands of crimes every day in the UK...why are they not used...because they are unreliable

Unreliable ???

i.e. Only because it could have exposed the mccanns for what they are. 8**8:/:
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #222 on: July 23, 2015, 08:55:13 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on July 23, 2015, 08:54:10 AM
Unreliable ???

i.e. Only because it could have exposed the mccanns for what they are. 8**8:/:

unreliable ..yes
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stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #223 on: July 23, 2015, 09:07:37 AM »
Quote from: davel on July 23, 2015, 08:55:13 AM
unreliable ..yes

and as you are fond of reminding people, how valuable is your opinion ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #224 on: July 23, 2015, 09:08:42 AM »
it isn't my opinion..it's a scientific fact
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