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Offline DCI

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2013, 11:26:13 AM »
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Katy Brand ‏@KatyFBrand 45s
Sincere apologies for the error in my @Telegraph #mccann piece yesterday. It has now been rectified.
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Offline Benice

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2013, 11:28:06 AM »
Why not experimenting to stop propagating myths that abduction is a fact when, according to the AG, there was no evidence to determine the nature of the crime ? If SY made the option to contemplate only abduction and/or murder, how do you know this is not in order to eliminate eventually one and/or the other ?
What about being careful not to mix up opinions and facts ?
From that position, you'd be much stronger to attack fanatics.

After 2 years of scrutinising the case - SY have said it was stranger abduction.   

They are the experts and so I have no intention of dismissing their findings in favour of 'armchair detectives' who actually believe they have better investigative skills, and know more about this case than the police officers of one of the best police forces in the world.

SY have also stated that the McCanns and their friends are NOT persons of interest nor suspects in this case. Full stop.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Rachel Granada

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 11:43:31 AM »
After 2 years of scrutinising the case - SY have said it was stranger abduction.   

They are the experts and so I have no intention of dismissing their findings in favour of 'armchair detectives' who actually believe they have better investigative skills, and know more about this case than the police officers of one of the best police forces in the world.

SY have also stated that the McCanns and their friends are NOT persons of interest nor suspects in this case. Full stop.

This is what I find hard to get my head round.  The fact that the armchair detectives think that they know better than DCI Redwood and the Grange team.

Grange have access to everything - yet they think they know better.
Grange have years of police experience - yet they think they know better.
Grange have been working this case for 2 years - yet they think they know better.

DCI Redwood has spelled out clearly that the McCanns and their friends are not suspects or persons of interest - YET THEY THINK THEY KNOW BETTER!  (sorry to shout).   8()(((@#

AnneGuedes

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 12:36:00 PM »
After 2 years of scrutinising the case - SY have said it was stranger abduction.   

They are the experts and so I have no intention of dismissing their findings in favour of 'armchair detectives' who actually believe they have better investigative skills, and know more about this case than the police officers of one of the best police forces in the world.

SY have also stated that the McCanns and their friends are NOT persons of interest nor suspects in this case. Full stop.
Yes, Mr Redwood said "the McCanns and their acquaintances are not (small letters, but negation all the same) persons of interest", but no "full stop", Benice, if you're honest.
SY didn't "say it was stranger abduction", they said they believed it, this is quite different, don't you think ?
Can't you wait for the evidence "the best police in the world" will possibly bring that Madeleine was abducted and/or murdered before expressing your contempt of the Ministério Publico ?
The basic principle armchair detectives can't afford to forget is that SY will have to find evidence because as long as they have no proof, abduction will remain what it is : a belief, if not a myth.
So better cross your fingers.

Offline Carana

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 01:05:07 PM »
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Katy Brand ‏@KatyFBrand 45s
Sincere apologies for the error in my @Telegraph #mccann piece yesterday. It has now been rectified.


Right. So that should be the end of that. She has had the good grace to apologise for a mistake.


Here is the link to the Twitter comment in question before the mistake ends up as a permanent troooo fact to be recited ad infinitum.

https://twitter.com/KatyFBrand/status/353454173322350592


Offline Benice

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 01:31:27 PM »
Yes, Mr Redwood said "the McCanns and their acquaintances are not (small letters, but negation all the same) persons of interest", but no "full stop", Benice, if you're honest.
SY didn't "say it was stranger abduction", they said they believed it, this is quite different, don't you think ?
Can't you wait for the evidence "the best police in the world" will possibly bring that Madeleine was abducted and/or murdered before expressing your contempt of the Ministério Publico ?
The basic principle armchair detectives can't afford to forget is that SY will have to find evidence because as long as they have no proof, abduction will remain what it is : a belief, if not a myth.
So better cross your fingers.

Please point out where I have expressed  'my contempt' for the Ministerio Publico.

It could not be more clear that as a result of their investigations SY have ruled the McCanns and their friends OUT of this case.  And no amount of nitpicking over individual words will change that fact.

The remit of SY was to find out what happened to Madeleine.  Their conclusions thus far have been based purely on the evidence at their disposal and their expertise in evaluating it - taking into account the forensic reports and the reports from other experts outside their own field.

The remit of some of the armchair detectives was to do everything possible to blame and demonise the McCanns - for no other reason in most cases than because they dislike them intensely.  Myths, lies, wild speculation and gossip are given precedence over evidence, common sense, logic and reasoned evaluations at every turn.  Any reports from experts which do not suit their agenda are ignored.

One is a serious investigation.   The other is a witchhunt. 
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Benice

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2013, 01:44:51 PM »
Right. So that should be the end of that. She has had the good grace to apologise for a mistake.


Here is the link to the Twitter comment in question before the mistake ends up as a permanent troooo fact to be recited ad infinitum.

https://twitter.com/KatyFBrand/status/353454173322350592

Some 'sceptics' are so disappointed at this news -  they are now busy convincing themselves that the claim that the McCanns have split up is actually true, and that it is only the inclusion of that claim in the article that was the 'error' for which the author is apologising.      Wishful thinking at its most desperate. imo



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline faithlilly

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2013, 01:47:18 PM »
Some 'sceptics' are so disappointed at this news -  they are now busy convincing themselves that the claim that the McCanns have split up is actually true, and that it is only the inclusion of that claim in the article that was the 'error' for which the author is apologising.      Wishful thinking at its most desperate. imo

Does it really matter ? True or false, it makes no difference does it  ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Rachel Granada

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2013, 01:53:33 PM »
Does it really matter ? True or false, it makes no difference does it  ?

It does to some.  Many "sceptics" were positively salivating at this "news" yesterday and today many can barely conceal their disappointment that it is not true.

Offline Mrs. B

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2013, 01:59:18 PM »
It does to some.  Many "sceptics" were positively salivating at this "news" yesterday and today many can barely conceal their disappointment that it is not true.

It clearly matters A LOT to some bitter, gossip-mongering & dysfunctional people.


Offline Carana

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2013, 02:00:09 PM »
Does it really matter ? True or false, it makes no difference does it  ?

What was the point of the thread?

Rachel Granada

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2013, 02:02:27 PM »
It clearly matters A LOT to some bitter, gossip-mongering & dysfunctional people.



If people have nothing better to do than look at Gerry McCann's hand to see if he is wearing a wedding ring then they seriously need to get a life.  What a load of saddos.

Offline faithlilly

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2013, 02:07:32 PM »
It does to some.  Many "sceptics" were positively salivating at this "news" yesterday and today many can barely conceal their disappointment that it is not true.

Neither me, you or the 'spectics' know what is going on in the McCanns marriage and it is none of our business. Perhaps if you supporters spent as much time developing and supporting initiatives to find Madeleine as you do hanging on 'sceptics' every utterance the poor child's fate may be closer to being known.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2013, 02:08:25 PM »
It clearly matters A LOT to some bitter, gossip-mongering & dysfunctional people.



Obviously.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: According to the Daily Telegraph the McCanns have broken up?
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2013, 02:21:52 PM »
Perhaps if you supporters spent as much time developing and supporting initiatives to find Madeleine as you do hanging on 'sceptics' every utterance the poor child's fate may be closer to being known.
That's what sceptics are here for : allow believers to hang on made up utterances !