Abduction versus Accident

[gilet]

Which is exactly what I said
 

No it is not what you said. I suggest you re-read your own post more carefully. You remained stuck at the stage of suspicion in your post. I explained that the suspicion must lead to evidence, arrests and proof.

Your were ignoring this fact.

[Carana]

Sorry Carana, dont understand your question

Quote from: Redblossom on Today at 02:20:11 PM

    But there is no precedent for a three year old being taken by a stranger and returned or rescued  years later, unless you have an example

Did you mean no precedents anywhere in the world?

There are examples of young children being kidnapped and found years later. Just because we can't easily find them on Google, depending on our abilities to search in various languages, doesn't mean that there are no precedents, even though the principal reasons why kids are kidnapped may be different from one setting to another.

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic3890.html

[AnneGuedes]

Glad to hear that you don't lend any credence to Amaral's execrable fridge/Scenic nonsense.  JK Rowling couldn't have topped that one!

Poor Amaral, he was, yes, very close to the truth, but his unconscious stopped him.. and finally made him the victim of the farce.

[Rachel Granada]

Poor Amaral, he was, yes, very close to the truth, but his unconscious stopped him.. and finally made him the victim of the farce.

Close to the truth - what with, the so-called forensics? 

I'd say the only victims of the farce were Madeleine, Kate and Gerry McCann.  A farce created by a corrupt cop.

[gilet]

Poor Amaral, he was, yes, very close to the truth, but his unconscious stopped him.. and finally made him the victim of the farce.

How does his dismissal from the case which was as he tells us in his book directly linked to his mouthing off to a journalist make him a victim?

The very fact that a person under suspicion of abetting a torture of the parent of a missing child (an arguido even) would have disbarred him from ever being involved in the McCann case in most civilised countries because he would have been under suspension.  His role in the case will I am sure come under very close scrutiny by the authorities eventually.

Your clear support for this convicted ex-cop who disgraced his profession by his actions tells me a lot about your stance regarding this case.

[AnneGuedes]

Quote from: Redblossom on Today at 02:20:11 PM

    But there is no precedent for a three year old being taken by a stranger and returned or rescued  years later, unless you have an example

Did you mean no precedents anywhere in the world?

There are examples of young children being kidnapped and found years later. Just because we can't easily find them on Google, depending on our abilities to search in various languages, doesn't mean that there are no precedents, even though the principal reasons why kids are kidnapped may be different from one setting to another.

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic3890.html

There are cases of babies stolen by frustrated women. Had one twin or both (much better for them, then easier for the abductor) disappeared, then adoption could have been contemplated.

[Redblossom]

No it is not what you said. I suggest you re-read your own post more carefully. You remained stuck at the stage of suspicion in your post. I explained that the suspicion must lead to evidence, arrests and proof.

Your were ignoring this fact.

I am ignoring nothing. All I said was dog alerts raise police suspicion as police know what they are trained to alert to. THATS WHY they send themin in the first place, because the suspicion is already there!

proof, courts, evidence,? That had nothing to do with my post.

[Redblossom]

Quote from: Redblossom on Today at 02:20:11 PM

    But there is no precedent for a three year old being taken by a stranger and returned or rescued  years later, unless you have an example

Did you mean no precedents anywhere in the world?

There are examples of young children being kidnapped and found years later. Just because we can't easily find them on Google, depending on our abilities to search in various languages, doesn't mean that there are no precedents, even though the principal reasons why kids are kidnapped may be different from one setting to another.

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic3890.html

So do you have an example of a three year old taken by a stranger and returned years later? Surely, if  they were it would make the NEWS

[DCI]

I am not proving any theory. I have just had a very pleasant lunch if you must know. I am not at your beck and call.

I shall respond in my own good time. Once I have got over the humour of you bringing only part of the article here, being too embarrassed to own up to its origin, and the nonsense which the author uses as non-citations.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/248068/Kate-McCann-How-dare-they-call-me-cold

Same article 2011.
Amaral say's.


Last night he said: “I knew about the statement from the British woman but the photofit was not sent through. I believe it is important that this line of inquiry is investigated.”
 
The woman who drew up the image was a relative of Pamela Fenn, an elderly woman who lived above the McCanns’ apartment. She died recently. Her relative said that on the afternoon of the kidnap, she was on the balcony of Mrs Fenn’s apartment when she looked down and saw a man pushing a gate to a neighbouring apartment to and fro possibly to find out how much noise it made.
 
When she realised Madeleine was taken the same evening she gave a statement to British police and helped them compile the  photofit. However, the first time the public was aware of her potentially crucial evidence was its mention in Kate’s book.

So how did that information get in the files
 
Speaking to the Sunday Express Mr Amaral said: “I don’t think it would be useful to criticise the British detectives but I would be interested to hear why certain material was not sent to Portugal while I was on the case.”

Ian Robertson, who has an apartment in the same block, said from his home at Neyland, Pembrokeshire: “There seemed to be a group of local thieves targeting the apartments. I have a theory that they had criminal contacts and that Madeleine might have been stolen to order.”
 
Mr Amaral said: “One of the theories considered was that a thief got into the apartment and something happened with Madeleine. I am sure the review will examine that theory.”

[AnneGuedes]

I am ignoring nothing. All I said was dog alerts raise police suspicion as police know what they are trained to alert to. THATS WHY they send themin in the first place, because the suspicion is already there!

proof, courts, evidence,? That had nothing to do with my post.

If I had been told that Prof Harrison would send a cadaver dog in a flat left by Madeleine's parents 3 months before and meanwhile inhabited by other people, I would have found it very, very weird.

[Redblossom]

If I had been told that Prof Harrison would send a cadaver dog in a flat left by Madeleine's parents 3 months before and meanwhile inhabited by other people, I would have found it very, very weird.

Exactly, Harrison saw the need and directed it, and if dogs cant scent death after thirty days as kate mccann claims he must be an idiot wasting time and money


 

[AnneGuedes]

Exactly, Harrison saw the need and directed it, and if dogs cant scent death after thirty days as kate mccann claims he must be an idiot wasting time and money


 

An idiot MBE, isn't it contradictory in terms ?

[Albertini]

I am not proving any theory. I have just had a very pleasant lunch if you must know. I am not at your beck and call.

I shall respond in my own good time. Once I have got over the humour of you bringing only part of the article here, being too embarrassed to own up to its origin, and the nonsense which the author uses as non-citations.

No your responses are proving my theory. I did not ask you to be at my beck and call.

Good for you on your lunch, glad you enjoyed it!

I brought over part of the article relating to a specific point about "normal behaviour" that a poster had made in defence of the McCann's.

It was highly relevent to the thread and the poster's point and indeed the proving that Kate was hiding her emotions was sourced from evidence Kate herself has given both to the newspapers and indeed in her own book.

But as ususal the supporters screech "it's Blacksmith!!" so as to avoid the issues.

Shall i tell you what i find amusing?

I find it amusing the first question in reply to the article from supporters of the pair is: "who's the author, who's the author", rather than arguing with the logic and evidence.

Utterly bizarre.

[Redblossom]

An idiot MBE, isn't it contradictory in terms ?

LOL

some mbes are idiots but the british police recommended the dogs to help in the scenario of death

They were tasked by mr g to do a report on possible death/murder of madeleine mccann, as the PJ had worked on abduction only until then, it threw no leads so it was time for  a new stage


Sorry i can never remember mr gs name or how to spell it

This is him and what the british press had to say


http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/i-hope-mr-robert-mendick-will-die-soon.html

[AnneGuedes]

Mr Encarnação. It means "incarnation, embodiment".